Did they really need Spock's body?
Why not just take Bones to Vulcan and say "Hey, we found Spock's Katra. Good enough?".
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I've always included this as one of the mistakes in the story. The need to go to the Genesis Planet makes no sense, as Sarek never once shows concern over the body, but only the Katra. They find the Katra in McCoy, so how the story suddenly has them going to Genesis is beyond me, except that it is what the plot needs to do to get Spock back. Its a necessary action, but poorly incorporated into the story. It could have easily been fixed with a minute of dialogue where Sarek expresses the need to give Spock's body a proper Vulcan burial or something like that...anything to give Kirk and crew a reason to return to Genesis.
I love the movie, but it isn't without some problems regarding the story.
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And its not like they new that Spock's body had been reanimated.
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Right. It was all convenient plot points designed to get Spock to us again, but not logically incorporated. It's kind of like Star Trek Generations where we have things happening for no other reason than to get Kirk and Picard together, not because they truly make sense. They had a good idea for the resurrection of Spock here, but the story needed a couple of rewrites to better smooth out these ideas and make it flow more logically rather than just being the result of the need to have Spock back at the end.
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IMO it's similar to the convenience of Spock on Genesis, being aged back to pretty much what he was before he made the ultimate sacrifice.
Still, I'm happy to run with that.
When Sarek asks Kirk why he left Spock on Genesis at his apartment, he's implying that Kirk should have known (which he would have had been carried the katra) that Spock's body should have been returned to Vulcan. McCoy, as the keeper of the katra, does say to Kirk in Spock's quarters "You left me on Genesis. Why did you do that?" Sarek also says that Kirk must bring McCoy and Spock to Vulcan so they "can both find peace." He was definitely speaking literally.
Probably for the same reason that Vulcans need to return home during pon farr, some kind of deep connection to their homeworld, perhaps. As Sarek says in the film, "It's the Vulcan way."
Sucks for the crew of the Intrepid, none of whose bodies or katras made it back to Vulcan.
Did they ship Commander Sonak's remains back to Vulcan (in a ziploc)?
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When Sarek asks Kirk why he left Spock on Genesis at his apartment, he's implying that Kirk should have known (which he would have had been carried the katra) that Spock's body should have been returned to Vulcan.
Wrong. Sarek clearly thinks that Kirk has Spock's katra, as evidenced by his line of dialogue after the mind meld, "forgive me. It is not here. I had assumed he mind melded with you. It is the Vulcan way when the body's end is near." As far as both of them know, Spock is dead. Sarek's only concern is the katra. Like I said, they were on to a great idea, but it wasn't brought together in a logical fashion. It needed another rewrite to work the kinks out.
When Sarek asks Kirk why he left Spock on Genesis at his apartment, he's implying that Kirk should have known (which he would have had been carried the katra) that Spock's body should have been returned to Vulcan.
This only shows that the need to return to Genesis was present in the equation as they wrote the film, but badly incorporated into the story. Sarek would not know of what McCoy had said to Kirk. The entire mission to retrieve Spock's katra is kick-started by Sarek, who never once states that they need to retrieve Spock's body from Genesis. Now McCoy attempting to return to Genesis has some merit, but again, it merely showcases how the writers never brought the ideas together in a satisfactory manner. They left the Kirk going to Genesis up in the air, his having made this decision on his own for no real reason.
Sarek also says that Kirk must bring McCoy and Spock to Vulcan so they "can both find peace." He was definitely speaking literally
You have no real leg to stand on in the use of your word "definitely". Spock's katra is everything that is not of the body, his living spirit. When he says "them", he refers to McCoy and the manner of which Spock now exists...his katra. You are stretching to make this line reference the need for a dead body.
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