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Garbled references to the past.


In the novel, on which it was based, there are a couple of what I think are garbled references to the past. Firstly he makes reference to a statue of Big Brother, on top of a column, I think in Victory Square. I take this to be Nelson's Column. He says that it is commemorating BB defeating the Eurasian air force in the Battle of Airstrip One. This I take to be a garbled, altered history of the Battle of Britain.
The other one is when he goes into the pub and talks to the senior citizen (not shown in the film, although you do briefly see the outside of a pub). The old guy is going on about the price of beer and how much better it was "before the war". When Winston asks him which war, he replies, "It's all wars". This I took to be a garbled memory of the First World War ("the war to end all war"). I did look at the price of beer before WW1 and it was about the same price which he was quoting (yes, I have too much time on my hands!).

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A late reply, but I'll add another. I visited London a few years ago and a tour guide mentioned the "oranges and lemons" tune -- actually, he sang a little bit of it. Turns out the line "you owe me three farthings" is actually "you owe me five farthings." I'm guessing Orwell was trying to show that in such a society, the innocuous tidbits of information which the Party would have no need to alter couldn't be trusted because of failures of human memory.

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the whole point of endless wars is that it enabled the government to institute rationing which in turn gives them command of the food supply and more control over people's lives. If you control the flow of food you control their destiny. ANYONE who speaks out against the war is either an enemy of the state or a traitor/spy.

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