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DNA TESTS PROVE HAIR BELONGS TO MACDONALD


DNA Test On Evidence Points To MacDonald

POSTED: 5:01 pm EST March 10, 2006
UPDATED: 5:57 pm EST March 10, 2006

RALEIGH, N.C. -- The hair of a former Army doctor convicted in the slayings of his wife and two daughters was found clutched in his dead wife's hand, according to long-awaited results of DNA testing made public Friday.

Jeffrey MacDonald asked for the DNA testing in 1997, claiming it would bolster his argument that a band of crazed hippies killed his family in 1970, while he was stationed at Fort Bragg. But federal prosecutors said Friday in a statement the testing didn't find any DNA from either of the two women named by MacDonald as suspects.


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Both MacDonald's lead attorney, Tim Junkin, and his current wife, Kathryn, said they believe at least one piece of evidence uncovered during the DNA testing will help MacDonald's case. A hair from an unidentified person was found under the fingernail of MacDonald's youngest daughter, Kristen.

LINK TO THE ARTICLE....http://www.wral.com/news/7887201/detail.html?
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Greg Mitchell and Helena Stockeley have been ruled out as intruders/murderers of Colette, Kim and Kris. None of their dna was found in that apartment. MacDonald and no one else committed these brutal murders.





It's not the size of the dog in the fight but the size of the fight in the dog

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wow, it's a little late, but wanted to thank you for posting this. I'll check out the url.

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Greg Mitchell and Helena Stockeley have been ruled out as intruders/murderers of Colette, Kim and Kris. None of their dna was found in that apartment. MacDonald and no one else committed these brutal murders.


It seems to me that the families of Greg Mitchell and Helena Stoeckley might have a law suit. No physical evidence whatsoever connected them to the MacDonald murders, yet their names are all over MacDonald's website and they were implicated in the murders by MacDonald and his legal team. It appears that they've been done a grave injustice and at the very least MacDonald should have immediately removed their names from his website after the DNA tests exonerated them.

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I completely agree. I believe both estates should sue MacDonald for slander and libel.

It's not the size of the dog in the fight but the size of the fight in the dog

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"It seems to me that the unidentified hair points to another perp in the MacDonald case."

Let's see, over 1600 pieces of evidence pointing to Mac as the killer but one unsourced hair under his daughter's fingernail is evidence of intruders? Please go learn your subject matter. Is the dirt and grass found under her nails exculpatory too? The child was put to bed without a bath and without her nails cleaned. That hair could belong to anyone she came in contact with for days prior to this crime.

No hair, no dna, no fingerprints ever found in that apt from the people Mac identified as the intruders. There were no intruders..he's an ice pick baby killer.

It's not the size of the dog in the fight but the size of the fight in the dog

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"I saw "Fatal Vision" when it came out. The scene where the Luminol lights up the room when Malden turns off the light has stayed with me for over 20 years!"

No, I am not sore about anything. All interested parties had to do was google it. It was all over the news at the time.

There was no scene in FV where luminol was used. The blood was all over the apt, fresh blood. There was no attempt to clean up blood hence no need for luminol. You're thinking of another movie that starred Valerie Bertinelli and it was about a guy named Taylor who murdered his wife...Bertinelli played her sister in the movie.

Of course people have been convicted time and again in your country for a hair found on the body..in my country as well. It just won't fly in the MacDonald case despite Junkin's and Kurrich's allegations that it's exculpatory. I notice they didn't comment on the bloody fibre from the killer's pajamas found under her fingernail along with the unsourced hair....nor the grass or dirt...nor the fact that the hands were not bagged prior to autopsy.

It's not the size of the dog in the fight but the size of the fight in the dog

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There was no scene in FV where luminol was used.

There was a scene in FV where the lights were turned off and the luminol does like up and I too remember that scene very well (the most memorable of the film actually.) I think MacDonald is as guilty as Scott peterson, it's a open and shut case, PERIOD !!!

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There is no scene in Fatal Vision where luminol is used, it simply never happened. So the "most memorable of the film" memory shows how faulty memory can be. PERIOD!

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There may be a scene in the movie Fatal Vision where Luminol was used.Sometimes when they show Fatal Vision on tv they cut scenes out to save time for it to run in its allocated time slot.
Just a guess.
But this seems to explain why some say they saw Luminol being used and why some say that that was never in the movie.

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I don't recall a scene with luminol in Fatal Vision. I just watched it this morning. There is a scene where the father goes to the house his daughter and grandaughters were murdered in. He sits on the couch where MacDonald was supposedly sleeping. He repeats what MacDonald told him about the drugged up hippies and their description to the detectives, then he turns off the lamp and the detectives' faces are completely in shadow. This means MacDonald could not have seen his attackers with the lights off.

Is this the scene you're thinking of? It is quite memorable. Not as memorable as the luminol scene in the Valerie Bertinelli movie though. I saw that movie years ago and I still remember the parents turning off the light to go to sleep and are horrified by the splashes of blood all over the room.

Tomorrow's just your future yesterday!

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Nikolai, you're probably remembering the Valerie Bertinelli "In a Child's Name" based on the Peter Maas book.

Different case.

Of course, MacDonald is still guilty.

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I don't think there was a luminol scene in that movie because there wasn't much need to have luminol sprayed in the apartment. The blood was literally dripping off the walls.

McDonald never tried to cover up or clean up any blood stains, for one thing, he didn't have time or want nor need to take time; he needed the scene to appear fresh. He gave himself a collapsed lung and was in need of prompt medical care; he had already staged the scene.

The apartment was sealed for close to 15 years; it was never cleaned even during his trial nor any of his appeals.

It's possible the FBI sprayed it for re-testing and directionality of spatter before his trial in Raleigh years later (after the blood had dried) but I don't remember any scene of luminol enhanced blood on the walls as you're describing it.

The scene that stays with me is Malden noticing the undisturbed cards on top of the bookcase; then stomping on the floor and watching them all fall over. You sorta know right then that there was no "life and death" struggle in that living room.

"As the Philosopher Jagger said, you can't always get what you want."

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LOL....yeah...quite amazing that MacDonald's hair turned up in his own home. How on Earth could it have gotten there??? :))

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courtneyshane, do you think he is guilty or innocent?

For me, one language is NEVER ENOUGH!!!
Also, Fred Phelps is a LIAR!!!
GOD LOVES PEOPLE!!!

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sure he is! why because he says so! not!

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yeah and how would it get stuck to a dead woman's bloody hand??? get real!

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LOL, for over 30 years that ice pick baby killer mac has stated that this hair belongs to the killer. He's right, it's his hair, he's the killer.

Notice how this poster shirked the dna evidence by declaring that Mac's hair should be found in his home. He's right it should be. What wasn't found was any hair that belongs to Mitchell or Stockeley.

It's not the size of the dog in the fight but the size of the fight in the dog

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now that the hair sample done with I wonder what other straw he's going to grab for?

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He's nailed to the stake now,, he said for years the hair found in collette's hand was the murderer, guess that's the closest we'll ever get as far as a confession goes out of him, but I'm curious as to what jabber jaws says now knowing it was his hair. lol

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then why was the crime sceen staged? ONE piece of evidence from FV was 10 years after the murder, the apartment sealed and one of the detectives notices a knick-knack made of paper on top of the bookcase.
he jumped on the floor and the object fell instantaly. suggesting the staging of the crime sceen.

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I am reading a book now that challenges a lot of things that I had thought were accurate from watching and reading Fatal Vision. One thing the authors note is that the crime scene was not secured, people were wandering in and out, and at least one officer or medical personnel admitted to picking up some things in the living room and setting them upright. The book is called Fatal Justice: Reinvestigating the McDonald Murders, by Fred Bost and Jerry Potter. I'll admit, it is not the easiest book to read, but I've always been intrigued by the McDonald case so I am trying to get through it. So far, I'm not convinced that he didn't do it. Also, just fyi, there is a book called The Journalist and the Murderer by Janot Malcolm which questions whether Joe McGuiness betrayed McDonald and journalistic ethics in writing this book (McGuiness was sued by McDonald as well).

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Macdonald tried to sue Mcginnis but only got royalties from the book fatal vision,because Mcginnis owed Macdonald money for writing the book anyway.Colette"s family than sued macdonald. The website www.thejeffreymacdonaldcase.com has all the evidence posted on the against Macdonald, and there is a lot against him. Yes the crime scene was not secure, the army did not know how to deal with homicide's back than, like they do now,but there is no evidence there was intruders in the house.

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Aek, all one needs to do to determine MacDonald's guilt or innocence is read the transcript of the original interview with the army investigators. None of Fatal Justice's nonsense can contradict MacDonald's own words.
Just read it. I think the problems are GLARING, but I'll point out the worst one: he never mentions his pajama top. His first recollection of what happened doesn't mention this flimsy piece of nylon that supposedly saved his life.

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what nylon you talking about? I read his orginal statements, and fatal vision nothing was mention about nylon. I did'nt read that piece of garbage fatal justice so please inlighten me about macdonald's latest lie please

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The nylon pajama top - the one that MacDonald stabbed his wife through - is not mentioned in his original story to Army investigators. There were fibers (and the pocket) from his torn top in the bedroom and under his wife's body. When he was questioned about how icepick holes got in his top, he made up this story about it being torn and wrapped around his wrists in the hallway and he used it to fend off the blows of his attackers.

No pajama top fibers were found in the hallway.

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Helena;s confession did not match the physical evidence found in the home. Helena confessed, recanted, confessed, recanted, and confessed again. She was not believable.

The blood evidence is the evidence in this case along with the pajama fibres..not confessions from drug addled young girls. The blood evidence cannot be explained away nor did Mac's defense even try. It came into the trial uncontested.

All documents can be found at www.thejeffreymacdonaldcase.com




It's not the size of the dog in the fight but the size of the fight in the dog

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what did me gypsie was how the family was over killed, but he only gets stabbed once!

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LOL falls under the category of "be careful what you wish for."

Judge Dupree sends his blessings, Jeffrey.

"As the Philosopher Jagger said, you can't always get what you want."

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Thanks for this. And yet people STILL post saying the guy is innocent, was framed.

I guess people just believe what they want to believe.



You must be the change you seek in the world. -- Gandhi

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Everyone believes what they want to believe. Facts are curious things and establishing them is seldom as straightforward an exercise as we would wish on the whole. Personally I take no position on the case as an outsider [i.e. not being American], though I did find the following remarks on Ken Adachi's site in an article defending Ted Gunderson:

http://educate-yourself.org/tg/nwogundersonsmear1may0.shtml

" "Irregularities" committed by the government in the McDonald case are simply staggering. While under government control, evidence had been altered, destroyed, disappeared, and hidden from the defense. Recently, the Judge ruled that DNA testing could be done on the remaining artifacts, but did not allow the defense to be present when the court opened the envelopes which were supposed to contain 15 items of evidence. Only U.S. Department of Justice and FBI representatives were allowed to be present during the court proceedings. Five of the 15 items scheduled for examination of DNA were missing from those envelopes. That's barely the tip of the iceberg in the McDonald case. Anyone who carefully examines the voluminous evidence gathered by Gunderson and others, can clearly see that Dr. Jeffrey McDonald was framed. The evidence fairly shouts at you."

And again in response to those implying MacDonald's injuries were of a suspiciously minor nature, this from 2005:

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/fataljustice3chaphelenastoeckley05not05.shtml [I recommend people read this article in its entirety]

" MacDonald was discovered unconscious and seriously injured, as he had been stabbed multiple times with an ice pick, a knife, and repeatedly clubbed with a baseball bat. When he was taken to the hospital, doctors discovered that one of his lungs had collapsed due to puncture wounds....

....While his lung was being repaired, an Army Criminal Investigation Division (CID) investigator by the name of William F. Ivory was gathering evidence at the MacDonald home. The story of what happened to much of the forensic evidence at the murder scene and the decisive role that William Ivory played in the pernicious prosecution and railroading of Jeffrey MacDonald will be explored in a separate series of articles, but for the purpose of this writing, it's important to note that the CBS TV program that I was now watching, 48 Hours Mystery, hosted by Bill Lagattuta, was repeatedly referring back to the explanations and crime scene assessments offered by the very same "Bill" Ivory , who was being portarayed on this television program as a heroic, tenacious, and stalwart bulldog investigator (along with Peter Kearns, another former CID investigator), explaining to the viewer what really happened that night (we are told) and MacDonald's true role (we are told) as crafty psychotic killer and cunning deceptionist."


As to Helena Stoeckley's instability and confession:

" About two weeks before the discovery of her body, Helena had placed frantic phone calls with both Ted Gunderson and Prince Beasley. She had been recently interviewed by the FBI and...could see two men in black suits were running surveillance on her every move, 24 hours a day, parked across from her apartment in Seneca, South Carolina. She told Beasley and Gunderson that she was scared and needed protection. She told Prince Beasley that she was prepared to finally tell the whole story about the MacDonald murders - without demanding immunity for herself - and wanted to "blow the lid" off Fort Bragg. Ted Gunderson called Beasley and urged him to get down to Helena's place as fast as he could, but before Beasley could arrange to take the trip, local newspapers announced that Helena Stoeckley was found dead."

Bragg was all but lawless. Drug use was out of control as was armed robbery and assault. Many soldiers carried guns openly around the base. Meanwhile the stockade overflowed to such an extent that cots had to be installed in corridors to take the swelling number of prisoners. The root of the problem was that Fort Bragg and the nearby city of Fayetteville were integral to the Air America narcotics operation being run out of South-East Asia. Fayetteville was also known as 'Fayettnenam' according to the book 'Fatal Justice' quoted in the article. The book also adds witness testimony: "Aviator James Milne, a MacDonald neighbor, had seen robed, candle-carrying figures headed for MacDonald's house the night of the murders. Milne said someone had broken into his car not long before the murders. Drug users had been caught after breaking into the police car of Fayetteville police detective Sergeant Prince Beasley. They had been looking for narcotics."

I'm afraid we all believe what we want to believe in the end. You pays your money and you takes your choice. Dependant as we are on external, controlled and probably unreliable sources of information for our understanding of the world I'm not sure we have an alternative.


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