Who's that GIRL? - Valley Girl (1983) Discussion

[–] kjhall68 19 years ago

I heard at one point Michelle Pfeiffer was considered for the role, but she ended up doing something else at the last minute instead. So that is her face you see on the cover art. I guess it was too late to change it to Deborah Foreman's face.

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[–] chupacabra77 19 years ago

That makes sense. I wonder if Michelle dropped out to do "Grease 2". What an awful thought!

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[–] Boggman 19 years ago

I also read once (cant remember where) that the girl that gets it on with Nicolas Cage in the bathroom was originally cast as Julie.

From what I read she was re-cast but the concept art had already been done so I think it was her.....

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[–] kjhall68 19 years ago

That girl that 'Randy' makes out with in the bathroom doesn't really look like the girl on the cover of the movie though. She's got blond hair on the cover, unless she dyed it darker for the movie, since she didn't get the part of 'Julie'. I always assumed it was 'Michelle Pfeiffer'. I think she did turn it down to do Grease 2!! Ha Ha!! I thought that movie had some charming moments. Not a classic like the first one, but some memorable and funny performances. Especially by Adrian Zmed...hee hee..

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[–] ijonesiii 19 years ago

I always knew the girl on the poster looked NOTHING like Deborah Foreman and I always wondered where the face on that girl came from.

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[–] meggyb243 19 years ago

Whoa, that was bothering me too. This makes me feel better.

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[–] herbsmokinfreak 19 years ago

Now that someone brought this up! What is the answer?! Michelle Pfeifer or the chick from the bathroom or some random cover art model??

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[–] Sshpunk 19 years ago

It is Randy's (Nick Cage)ex-girlfriend Samantha. The one that he ends up having sex with at the club after he and Julie break up. Umm, Julie's best friend Stacey was supposed to play the part of Samantha but in the end she got casted for the roll of Stacey instead of Samantha.

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[–] jane_bront 17 years ago

I guess Deborah didn't have any control over it, but does it make any sense (or is it fair) to have the image of a completely different person from the actress who actually stars in the movie on its official poster?? That's a slap in the face to Deborah. Now I can see a possible reason why she wouldn't participate in the bonus features of the anniversary edition. (And why is Nick sleeveless there anyway? He was never sleeveless in the movie.) Who designed this darn poster?

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[–] kingkeeg 16 years ago

Young Michelle Pfeiffer is the best answer I find.

Now, I've heard the girl who played Sam in the film (Randy's ex) is the girl on the cover...but I don't think so.Tina Theberge (Sam) doesn't look like the girl on the cover--her character (Cage's ex-gf in the film) had dark hair in the film, and that doesn't really make sense to have her random (in the movie for less than five minutes) character on the cover--she wasn't valley...she was more his style. What's more...she doesn't look that much like the cover poster girl

Michelle Pfeiffer (now) doesn't look like the girl on the cover either. But young Pfeiffer does--check out young MP here:

http://pfeiffer.morrisseydesignstudio.com/images/gallery/movie/80_tv/badcats17.jpg

And the girl on the poster here:

http://bp2.blogger.com/_FGrxKMwdUu8/R40sE_6QKVI/AAAAAAAACZs/pmNm8pQgmUs/s1600-h/valley_girl.jpg

May be Deborah Foreman was irked for not getting placed on the cover...perhaps so...

I found a DVD with her photoshopped on the cover (selling on amazon canada)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Fu5VB4TXL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

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[–] jane_bront 16 years ago

I wish there was a way to ask Martha Coolidge. Surely she would know who the girl is.

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[–] jgumby 8 years ago

Deborah Foreman did an interview a few years ago and said that it wasn't her face on the poster, but that she didn't know who it was (the interviewer starts to say something about it being the ex-girlfriend, but doesn't complete his sentence): https://youtu.be/xxqkflcFi5w?t=153

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[–] Daisy_Mabel (129) 4 years ago

It was common in the 80s for it to appear the movie poster graphic designers and the movie makers themselves had no rapport whatsoever. One of the most provocative and exciting movie posters to come out in the 80s (note I was a pre-teen girl so enthusiasm didn't take much) wasn't even a scene in the movie - April Fool's Day. And yet another instance where Deborah Foreman starred in a movie and isn't on the cover.

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[–] Strannger (2007) 8 years ago

Yeah I wasn't sure of they were asking who the actor was or who it was supposed to be. If it's the character than it's Samantha

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[–] skprod2000 16 years ago

According to Martha Coolidge at a screening last night, she said that Deborah Foreman wanted to be paid extra for the photo shoot and that the low budget production couldn't do it, so she didn't show up. Strangely though she didn't mention who it actually was who ended up on the poster. Now that people mention her, I have to admit it does look a lot like Michelle Pfeiffer. If I had to make a guess I'd say it's her who's on the poster.

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[–] daphne88 16 years ago

Interesting. Thanks for responding, as I have wondered about that also.

I'm jealous that you attended a screening. :) Any other information shared about the movie or the filming of it that hasn't been out there before?

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[–] jane_bront 16 years ago

Was Deborah an established star at the time that she would want extra payment for a mere photo shoot to promote her own movie? I'm not in the movie biz but isn't photo promotion of a film part of what a starring actor signs up for? I guess if Martha Coolidge said it, it's likely true but that doesn't say much for Deb.

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[–] toycoon-too 16 years ago

I remember thinking the same thing the first time I saw this in the theater. I think I thought it was just a bad likeness of the actress, Deborah Foreman and not a completely different person. Randy is dressed more like his punk friend and Julie never wears that outfit, either.

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[–] The Fox-2 14 years ago

When I saw the movie for the first time, I fully expected the outfits on the poster to show up in the movie. Not only was I surprised to see that they didn't, but I also wondered for the longest time who that girl was in the posted, because she looked nothing like Deborah Foreman.

Back when most movie posters were still illustrated and and not photographed and shopped like they are now, the artists took plenty of creative liberties to make the art appeal to potential moviegoers. There was another movie about Valley Girls called "The Vals," where three of the girls are wearing the same outfits in the movie that they do on the poster, except that the outfits in the poster are drawn to show much more cleavage and leg than in the movie. The fourth girl in the poster is wearing an outfit pieced together from several different outfits worn in the movie (and not all worn by her), and she is placed front and center so that people can see her ample rack.

The best example that I can think of where poster artists took creative liberties is a poster for what we now call "Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope." Luke Skywalker never had his shirt open wide as he held his lightsaber above his head and Princess Leia never wore that sleeveless, low-necked, split-skirted dress that she's shown wearing on the poster.

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[–] piquebu 15 years ago

OP, the cover art thing puzzled me, too.

I don't think it's Michelle Pfeiffer. The girl pictured is much "rounder" than Pfeiffer (look at the legs). Whoever she is, she looks a lot like a popular model from 80s magazine ads (and bit parts in movies) but who knows.

Either way, it's a "doctored" photo (in the days before Photoshop) so it's a wonder they just didn't "paste" Foreman's face onto the body.

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[–] jane_bront 15 years ago

I just watched the movie again today and now I'm pretty sure that the girl on the poster is actually the actress who plays Randy's ex-girlfriend with whom he makes out in the club after Julie quit him. It looks so much like her to me except on the poster they made her blond.

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[–] DesperateHouseboy 14 years ago

I wonder why they didnt change it to Deborah. I've also noticed alot of 80's movies have people on the cover art, that arent even in the movie.

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[–] Marla_the_big_tourist 14 years ago

I'm surprised that this still hasn't been cleared up.

Deborah Foreman was under contract to a cosmetics company, she was a cover girl for Cover Girl if I remember correctly.

Her likeness couldn't be used in print form by anyone but the cosmetics company.

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[–] eightezzz 14 years ago

Ahh thanks kissmiasma! That makes sense!

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[–] Marla_the_big_tourist 13 years ago

Glad I could help :)

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[–] BigRich 12 years ago

Did a little Googling and it turns out that it was Maybelline, not Covergirl, that she modeled for.

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[–] jane_bront 9 years ago

So you can't take some photos for the poster of a movie you're starring in because you are modeling for a cosmetics company? Smh. I hope it's not true because that doesn't make any sense. How would the cosmetics company be harmed by her image on the Valley Girl poster? If anything it could have helped sales. Duh!

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[–] OgrePenguin 13 years ago

The actress on the cover is Tina Theberge, who plays Cage's ex, the one he has sex with in the club.

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