I love this film and have watched it loads of times,but there is one thing I can pick fault with it. Coleman played along with with the baddies' plan to start with,but then suddenly became one of the goodies,without any explanation for why he changed colours?
shareHe appeared to have a conscience about it already. but I imagine Valentine enlisted Coleman's help in getting a doctor and for confirming the truth. He seemed to like the idea of sticking it to the Dukes.
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Keep in mind as well that although Coleman was Winthorpe's butler, he was employed by the Duke Brothers...meaning that he reported to and followed through on their orders, bypassing Winthorpe.
shareThe thing that's more jarring, is Eddie Murphy turning from a foul-mouthed, abrasive, volatile street crook to a decent, hard-working gentlemnan practically overnight. No dope, no hoes, no parties, tomorrow's another day in the office... Of course, it's just one of many things that don't make any sense in the film, but that's hardly important.
"facts are stupid things" - Ronald Reagan
my man, you have to understand the hustle. Valentine was hustling. You put on the costume and play Along until you get yours.
shareIt's a bit extreme but it makes sense. A week earlier in someone else's home and Eddie would have been putting his Kools out on the floor too. Now that he has his own he's trying to protect it. He was right, those people were freeloaders. He proved the assertion of nurture over nature. That's what the Dukes were putting him in that situation to find out.
shareWell, the Duke brothers pushed a man to the brink of suicide with their "experiment". Coleman was a decent person who decided enough was enough.
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Coleman was a decent person who decided enough was enough.I think we all knew Denholm Elliot's Coleman was going to do the right thing when given the opportunity. He was just too appealing to stay on the dark side.🐭
Even though those "upstairs" treat those "downstairs " fairly, I've seen time and again where the downstairs help secretly resent their employers. Florence on the Jeffersons, Jeffery on fresh prince, Niles on the nanny, Daphne on frasier...etc. even during valentine's house party scene, I think coleman makes a snide comment about the dukes when he hangs up the phone. Or when Winthrop tells him he can have the crepe dessert. Or when he walks in on Winthrop and Penelope about to have sex. I think coleman is into a different hustle than billy ray but grows a conscience.
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Coleman probably worked for the Dukes since he was a young man. Long before Winthorpe was even born. Randolph says of the wicked scheme, "We've done it before." Perhaps he saw another butler tell the Dukes, "No! I shall have no part in such a vile experiment!" Maybe he remembers how the cops fished that butler's body out of the Delaware River the next day. Coleman understood he had to tread very carefully and whatever happened to Winthorpe was gonna be ugly!
shareColeman worked for the Dukes... and was obviously not comfortable with the situation..
He called the Dukes scum bags when they told him of the plan..
He looked really sorry when he wouldnt let Winthorpe in after he got out of jail
Winthorpe almost killed himself and Valentine brought him back to his place.
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Bottom line while I agree with all of you, the film IS something of a fairy tale.
That bit with the ape(s)
on location with SUPERMAN I,& OTHER STARS
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Bottom line while I agree with all of you, the film IS something of a fairy tale.
That bit with the ape(s)
and Valentine becoming so smart
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and Valentine becoming so smart
I'm a bit late to the party, but I'll put in my comments anyway. The way I see it:
1)In the beginning Coleman didn't like Winthorp.
2) After Winthorp comes to the house with Ophelia and Coleman turns him, Coleman realizes how serious the situation is and what's happening to Winthorp. He starts to regret.
3) When Valentine brings Winthorp back home after trying to kill himself, does Coleman try to make ammends and helps at the end with his life savings.
Denholm Elliott was excellent in this.
Hedy is right.
Coleman had just as much disdain for Winthorpe as for the Dukes. Winthorpe was just as snobby and unbearable as they were being cut from the same cloth so to speak. Watching the insufferable eat themselves was probably not a big deal to him at that time.
Once Winthorpe was beaten down by the Duke brothers being forced to live hand to mouth and seeing just what the Dukes did to him, he finally cracked and did the right thing. That was quite a gamble since helping Winthorpe would likely end his long career and job security with the Dukes.
Denholm Elliott was indeed excellent in this. These types of minor character roles can make or break a movie, and he hit it out of the park.
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