Worst Star Wars movie.


.....just the worst. I don't know what Lucas was thinking. We went from a Dark Serious ESB... To a child film with silly teddy bears. Just awful.

reply

I arrived at the theater line for the premiere at around 4am with some friends. When the film was over, I realized we waited hours to see the Muppet Movie. It was a product of its time. It seems like the majority of movies, cartoons etc in the 80s were just long toy/merchandise commercials.

reply

Indeed, half of the income for all the Star Wars films has been the merchandise you buy after seeing the film.

I'm just annoyed they didn't come out with Star Wars LEGO until years after I graduated from being a kid.

reply

While I agree this movie was a disappointment, to point the finger at the 80s as the time of uber-commercial filmmaking, that completely ignores that EVERY movie today is designed to sell something aside from the film itself.

reply

You are correct in that I do ignore almost every modern film (also tv, music etc.) I made a conscious effort years ago to 'tune out'. I'm sure you are correct about films today. I made the mistake of breaking my rule and seeing Incredibles 2 only to be horrified. I still look at the 80s as a time where every block buster included at least three songs the radio and mtv played to death, Burger King mugs, toys etc.

reply

Yes, this problem started decades ago. I remember King Kong glasses at Burger Chef in 76 (or whenever that one was released) and tons of Star Wars merchandise rolled out between 77 and 80 and then the floodgates opening. Interestingly, there were no Blade Runner or The Thing glasses at any burger joint as far as I can recall (and if someone knows better, please correct me as I'd be curious to see what those glasses looked like).

reply

I thought star wars pretty much started the idea in 77, and started the debate for staff on wether to take a wage or cut of the toys. Its only certain films that can carry that off ,Blade Runner or The Thing were never gonna do it .
The film has to be kid friendly - or specially tuned to be kid friendly by introducing " a bunch of muppets" (dante quote)
Hence this thread and the OP's point.

reply

Yes, I was being totally serious about McDonald's having The Thing toys!

reply

thing '82 Kurt Russel , or thing marvel?

reply

Carpenter's The Thing.

reply

wow your right , i found a pic. Friday 13th too!
weird.
was there a "I spit on your grave" happy meal ffs?

reply

Although not the worst Star Wars movie, that goes to the Last Jedi, I do wish the ewoks had instead been Wookies, that would have made for a much more realistic defeat of the Emperor's "best troops" on the Sanctuary moon. Teddy Bear fur does not penetrate Stormtrooper armor, nor do wooden arrows or rocks.

Yet in Return of the Jedi they do.

And on that point, damaged A-Wings apparently can light up Super-class Star Destroyer bridges into a total inferno, also not making any sense, but I can understand Lucas needing to end his trilogy and fast back in 1983.

reply

Lucas had originally planned to have the Wookiees be the primitives who took down the high-tech Empire, but Chewbacca’s character had evolved into a civilized and technically sophisticated creature by the time of the third film, so Lucas created the Teddy Bears. To be fair, no matter what race played the role of Noble Savage in Return, the idea of Storm Troopers being overcome by stones and engulfed by Teddy Bears, and the Empire putting such a flawed design as the Walker into combat more than strains credulity. These notions are flat-out bushwa. This was a kiddie movie tacked onto
the end of an Autherian legend. Pitiful.

reply

I saw it at the theater in 1983 when I was 9 and loved it. Still really like it but I do agree with a lot of what's said about the Ewoks.

I will also say that this movie suffered the most from Lucas's changes. The song and dance number at Jabba's palace was pointless, the Scarlac pit was better without the Little Shop of Horrors plant in the center and Vader yelling "NO" before destroying the Emperor made the scene so much worse. Also as mentioned in the other thread, the Yub Nub song being replaced was terrible.

reply

You loved it, you just thought it wasn't 'cool' to like the Ewoks.

They were savages you know ... they literally ate people.

reply

It won't be the worst Star Wars movie until some happy accident removes "The Phantom Menace" from the space-time continuum!

May space and time warp soon.

reply

Suck a bag of rocks, TC! This film was awesome!

reply

Nah...it was goofy and juvenile...Han trying to blow out a fire.🙄🙄🙄

reply

I disagree. You can go suck a bag of rocks!

reply

That's nice that you disagree but it still sucked

reply

Trolls are so easy to spot nowadays...

reply

True he's a troll

reply

Lucas always said Star Wars movies were intended for kids. All of his movies are PG except for ROTS which probably only got PG13 because of multiple beheadings.

Nub nub!

reply

True. But Return of the Jedi was super kiddified.

reply

I honestly don’t see the point of PG13, parental guidance suggested means parental guidance suggested, this isn’t hard. Temple of doom, Jaws, ROTS all should have a PG rating and there shouldn’t be any debate about this. PG13 is a pointless rating

reply

never!! This "honour" belongs to "The last Jedi".

reply

I don't even count the prequels and Disney films as Star Wars movies, but yes, you do have a point.

reply