Something that has always perplexed me about “The King of Comedy” is the character of Rupert Pupkin’s mother. Early in the film she vexes Rupert with her interruptions while he is indulging his fantasies of talk show stardom. Then when he is finally allowed to perform his comedy routine on television, he claims that his mother is deceased. What is the truth?
Given Rupert’s fragile mental condition, my first guess would be that his mother is indeed dead, and that her voice and fleeting image are hallucinations. Then again, Rupert is an opportunist and would likely not hesitate to lie in order to enhance his material, even at his mother’s expense.
Obviously it is meant to be ambiguous but I would still like to know what others think.
I think it's more than a joke. We hear his mother's voice repeatedly in the movie and it's the only hint we get from his real life. She asks him once to turn the music down - a very middle-class, well-breed thing to ask. Is he really what he makes us believe to be? If we believe that Pupkin lives still with his mother, he is indeed in many ways an ordinary character, then his performance in the show becomes a whole new meaning. That means then, that he makes everything up, his whole life, being beaten by his school mates and so on. Thereyby he is so convincing that we follow him in that moment although we could have known it better. For me this is very significant because it underlines his entertaining qualities and asks at the same time the crucial question of authenticity. The Pupkin-character we don't know anything about becomes therefore even more hollow, more elusive - like the entire comedy-business.
Yeah, I caught that, too. He also tells Masha "I live in a hovel." Exaggeration? I think that between that and Rupert's well-appointed basement studio in Clifton, NJ, vs. the Langford show monologue tales, we're meant to be kept guessing, as with the ending (which is in itself a remake/remodel of the Taxi Driver ending). So - many reasons to like this film. When it makes us uncomfortable, that means the satire's about us as fans.
Many men have to pay 'rent' (some money at least) even if they live with their mothers still. It's probably why she was so interested in him getting to work on time.
Given Rupert’s fragile mental condition, my first guess would be that his mother is indeed dead, and that her voice and fleeting image are hallucinations.
My guess is that she is alive, because Rupert's delusions are daydreams of fame, not the Norman Bates variety.
He probably made up the line about her being dead as part of his act, just as he probably lied to Masha about not being able to afford his rent (since he's the stereotypical loser in his mother's basement, he doesn't need to pay rent).
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I'm on the team (if there is one) that says she is dead.
Not only does it make the movie more chilling (or funny. However you want to look at it.), I think it fits the character of Rupert more than if he was just adding some more punch to his stand-up. Here are a couple of things I look at:
1. In the scene where Rupert is recording the tape for Jerry and he's interrupted by his mother, Scorsese focuses on a shot of the various life-size cardboard stand ups of celebrities in the corner of the room. This shot is only focused on during a line of her dialogue. I interpret it as it's shown. Rupert's mother is as alive as cardboard. I could be looking into it too much, but the shot is too eerie for me to turn down.
2. In the scene where Rupert is sitting in between Liza Minnelli and Jerry, he is interrupted once again by his mother. She says something a long the lines of "You're going to be late to your appointment and miss your bus. You're always late." That's the general lines of it, probably not word by word at all. I think that Rupert is keeping the spirit of his mother alive. If he is shouting downstairs at an unreasonable hour, she is going to shout at him and tell him to keep it down. If he is neglecting his duties (going to the studio/offices to see Jerry), she is going to nag him. We see on more than one occasion that his mother doesn't know what Rupert is really doing down there. She just wants him to shut up. So why would she know that he had plans to go try to speak to Jerry that day?
3. We never see her. This is important, obviously, to the idea that she is not living anymore.
4. In the fantasy sequence between Jerry and Rupert where Jerry asks him "how he does it?", Rupert straight-out says that he "looks at all the terrible things that have happened to him throughout his life, and tries to make it funny." Once again, not the exact quote but you get the idea. This would back-up his comedy routine we are shown at the end. "If only my mother were alive today, I would say, "Mom, what are you doing here? You've been dead for 8 years!"
I'm sure I could think of more, but I really don't want to try and enforce the idea that she's dead. That's just my personal decision. It makes the movie more satisfying for me. I think everyone can agree that Martin Scorsese purposely left it shady to go a long with the tone of the movie. There are plenty of arguments I'm sure that could left-hand all of my reasonings. I'm curious to hear people's thoughts.
He states midway through the movie that his humor comes from looking at the horrible things that have happened to him in life. If you were to take out the jokes from his routine at the end, it would basically be the confession of how he got to be so deranged - years of abuse and humiliation from those around him. He ends his bit by saying the only way he could get on TV was by kidnapping Jerry Langford - which is again 100 percent true. If we take his childhood stories and kidnapping confession to be true, then it wouldn't make sense that the only bit he makes up in the routine is about his mother being dead.
It can't all be true, the curriculum couldn't have included making sure the students beat his ass, but i think the rest was true. It explains everything. At first i hated this movie cause his performance was so unnerving and irritating, but all this explains it.
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I believe she is alive. This movie is one of the most painful things I've ever seen. The pure bitterness of DeNiros character. I think he said she was dead as payback for the way she treated him. That's how bitter and twisted he is, that he would say on television that she is dead. She is, as far as he is concerned, dead to him.
It's not beyond the pale for comedians to say untrue stuff about their family, him saying his mother is dead could just be a satire on the way how some stand ups operate
Rupert did not have delusions. He just imagined the whole thing.People that use their imaginations have delusions?Also Rupert said that he was working these jokes his whole life so the part we see him making the tape might be a few years ago. She was dead in my opinion because he said that his jokes are the crap parts of his life and from what i can tell he did not lie once in the time so what lie about that?
It's also worth speculating that the scene in question could have taken place 8 years ago in Rupert's world, since the chap had worked on the act his whole life and always had the same mental problems. His fantasy scenarios were outside of chronological time, so that joke could have been too. His actual act epitomizes the sado-masochistic tendencies of Scorsese's anti-heroes. The act is not funny because it is violent.
There was nothing to indicate that the scenes in his mother's basement didn't take place at the same time as the other events in the film (discounting Rupert's fantasy scenes, of course).
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My vote is that Rupert is being (with certain embellishments) 100% confessional in his comedic turn. He is obviously "deranged" (for lack of a better term) and he states to Jerry that he is 34 years old. In the monologue he says his mother has been dead for nine years which would have put him at age 25, well inside the general age the onset of schizophrenia. After his mother died he went totally off the deep end and the difference between reality and fantasy truly became blurred. One commenter says he wasn't hallucinating, he was fantasizing. Remember, Rupert fantasized that Jerry invited him to the spend the weekend (during the "meeting" in Jerry's office) but when he arrives he says that Jerry invited him. Obviously there is no way to tell for certain (the ambiguity is purposeful) but it would fit perfectly with the character for him to have been telling the straight truth during the monologue.