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Rupert Pupkin's Mental Condition


Can anyone elaborate on what would be the state or medical frame for Rupert's mania? I would be interested to know if they have a name for it, and if there's... how should I say? Evidence of it in everyday life?

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Pupkin definitely has delusions of grandeur. If you want to clinicalize his inflated sense of self-importance and talent, I'm guessing that Narcissistic Personality disorder is the best description.

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Pure psychopath. So rare to capture one alive.





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Just watched this film for the first time. It made me think of the John Hinkley Jr. case in real life. I would say "obsessional fixation" is part of it. Stupidity is his other problem. He could have went to any comedy club's open mike night and learned that his material sucked and needed improvement. Maybe have gotten better and successful. It's called paying your dues. Six years in prison was not enough for kidnapping, seems like in real life it is 25 years. But that would have ruined his early release from prison and his book deal would have been old news, likely to have never happened.

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Six years in prison was not enough for kidnapping, seems like in real life it is 25 years. But that would have ruined his early release from prison and his book deal would have been old news, likely to have never happened.


Rupert's sentence wasn't unrealistic, especially if (as is likely) he had no previous criminal record.

People typically get sentences of about 10 years for voluntary manslaughter, so I'd be surprised if the sentence for kidnapping would be much longer than that, at least when nobody is killed or seriously injured. 25 years would be a more typical sentence for something like second degree murder.

Stupidity is his other problem. He could have went to any comedy club's open mike night and learned that his material sucked and needed improvement. Maybe have gotten better and successful. It's called paying your dues.


Rupert's problem was that he didn't really want to become a great stand-up comedian, he just wanted to be famous without putting in any effort. It seemed delusional then, but in today's reality show culture of "famous for being famous" celebrities with even less talent than Rupert, it wouldn't be so far-fetched.

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I am not a lawyer or a lenient judge like those Bill O'Reilly tells us about. Some of those judges give a slap on the wrist to criminals who are 3 and 4 time offenders. I based my 25 year comment on other real life FBI cases. Rupert's first time offense (as you suggested may have helped him get a light sentence) was actually 5 felonies. They should be considered his 1st five offenses.

Oh well, it is a movie and not going to be changed.

I agree that Martin Scorsese and this film was a statement of things to come such as reality TV programs due to many new cable channels needing content to fill air time. And I understand now that Rupert did not want to pay dues, he expected to have fame handed to him.
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I agree that Martin Scorsese and this film was a statement of things to come such as reality TV programs due to many new cable channels needing content to fill air time. And I understand now that Rupert did not want to pay dues, he expected to have fame handed to him.


Today, all it takes is being from a rich family and releasing a sex tape to become everyone's favorite celebrity. Even Rupert seems talented and interesting when compared to today's reality show stars.

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That's funny, as I said the same thing before you did. I sometimes wonder if the celeb industry is designed to dumb down society. Why else do most news pages now have Daily Mail style sidebars we can't avoid on every news story, to get easily influenced gullible people to care about what over hyped talentless half wits are doing. They turn ex-manufactured band members who can't sing solo, or reality show contestants into style icons, because it involves no more skill than wearing clothes, except they're less stylish than everybody else I've ever seen, as have orange skin, obvious fake chest they like showing off, scouse brows, plastered on make-up. Or half a news page had Kardashian naked, and then they said she broke the internet, when nobody wanted to see her naked anyway.
Can't even walk into a newsagents without being confronted by rows of magazines full of thick orange people, with their dumb made up stories. Before their promoters make up a new career for attention, like business person for putting their name on a perfume somebody else made, or fashion designer for drawing a picture of a dress, and then getting somebody to make it who has worked in and studied the industry. Or the Beckhams selling their kids into the celeb industry with made up stories by their promoter, so their talentless mother can use them to keep selling dumb stories to magazines. Then the gullible brainwashed army of people say they must be great if rich, from there being so many gullible brainwashed people to care about types who are worse than most people.

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My point is that most people don't even serve 25 years to life for second degree murder, so it's not likely that Rupert would have gotten a sentence anywhere close to this for a kidnapping where nobody was physically harmed. Most kidnapping cases I've read about that don't involve attempted murder charges get about a 10 year sentence, Rupert's 6 cut down to parole after 3 isn't unreasonable or unlikely.

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Rupert wanting to be famous without 'putting in any effort'?
Come one: he kidnapped a tv star, I'd say that's quite an effort he put in there :)

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It's like today's culture, where over hyped talentless trash are constantly forced in people's faces, until many become brainwashed to admire those types and want to be a talentless celeb themselves. Then if anybody can see reality the brainwashed masses are programmed to attack them and come up with desperate attempts at why they should be admired, such as they're rich, when idiots wouldn't become rich if so many weren't brainwashed to admire them. Most of time time even if they've become or near to bankruptcy, the brainwashed ones still think they're rich because of the attention seeking schemes by their promoter.
I wonder if the Beckhams are like that, with the way they always try to hang around Prince William at charity events, since she can't sing solo and he always cared more about being a celeb than winning anything at football, but they still want the attention. Or Victoria Beckham being promoted as a great fashion designer or style icon, when she's a cheap looking orange chav and only decided to be a fashion designer after not being able to sing solo and still wanting the attention.

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Schizophrenia

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I don't think he's schizophrenic. He's delusional, but he doesn't hear voices or hallucinate, though his perception of reality is skewed. He imagines that he's friendly with Jerry Lewis's character after a short ride in a limo. He thinks he's so talented and skilled at his craft that he should be able to go immediately to the top of his profession without starting at the small clubs. Lewis tries to explain to him that it's not going to happen that way and is actually fairly nice about it, but he can't get through to him.

Delusions of grandeur is probably about right, like another poster said. I'm not sure if that's an actual psychological diagnosis, though.

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