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THE KEEP - Deleted Scenes List

posted 12 years ago by Nick7080
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Here are some deleted scenes plus alternate endings from one my favorite movies and one of the underated horror movies of the 80's,The Keep.

Remember,all of these scenes are only small parts of Michael Mann's original 210 minutes version. I hope that one day someone will release this longer cut.

Some written previews about film mentioned a scene where Glaeken is attacked and nearly killed during his boat trip towards Romania. The captain of the boat tries to steal Glaeken's box while he's sleeping but Glaeken kills him.

Couple of scenes are reported to appear in some old TV versions:

Eva is looking on some of the Glaekens stuff,possibly his "sword" for his fight with Molasar.
Glaeken talks with Eva and tells her that he is so old that can't remember how he looked anymore.

Theatrical trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZkwMAbsxo4 shows some deleted/extended scenes;

Longer conversation between Woermann and Alexandru in which Woermann says that the keep looks like it was build to keep something in.

Little longer version of the scene where Molasar is talking with professor Cuza for the first time. In this scene Cuza asks Molasar "What are you?" one more time.

Glaeken is talking with Eva asking her did she find what she was looking for and did she expect to find him. This scene is maybe part of the first additional scene from above mentioned TV version.

Glaeken is touching Eva's face while she asks "What's happening to me?" This scene could be part of the original love scene cause dialogue sounds like the one described in original book before they have sex.

Also,based on 2 seconds long part of the trailer,it looks sex scene was also cut.

Trailer also shows Glaeken walking inside of the keep with his eyes turning white. Maybe this scene is from one of the alternate endings.

One or two seconds longer version of the ending where Glaeken is standing at the entrance of the keep looking over Molasar's fog/white smoke.

Different version of the scene (different visual effects) where Glaeken is walking towards the room where Molasar is waiting for him. In this alternate scene Glaeken's sword is covered with some glowing grey light.

I think that theatrical trailer was made from some earlier workprint of the movie.

Another,shorter trailer shows one shot of alternate ending where Glaeken is floating inside the keep,and also shows extra dialogue during Eva's confrontation with Glaeaken before he is taken away by nazis. In this extra part he says to Eva "I am the watchmen. I have come to destroy him."

Some fans have mentioned longer VHS version of The Keep which had one or more additional scenes with professor Cuza talking with Molasar,and also extended dialogue in final confrontation scene. Molasar asks Glaeken to stop their fight and points towards Eva,asking Glaeken "You care for her?" He also tells Glaeken that he can feel Eva's essence on him. Part of this scene is still present in official version,it's where you see Molasar and Glaeken in same shot for the first time. If you pay attention towards Molasar,he lowers his left arm,as if he had just pointed at someone. This VHS version is also reported to include extended TV version ending where Glaeken falls inside the keep,Eva finds him and he realizes that he became human. But also,this version apparently had full ending with Glaeken,Eva and her father on the ship heading for unknown destination (possibly Glaekens's home?).

Some photos,lobby cards and stills show some deleted scenes;

One photo shows father Mihail having dinner with the caretaker and inn keeper Alexandru in the inn after the Germans have settled into the keep. They discuss their hope that something bad will happen to the Germans and the priest warns that "when night falls, it falls on us all."

In the script several more soldiers were attacked by Molasar immediately after he's released. They're described as being thrown through the air and engulfed by blackness. One photo shows Woermann running from the light of the silver cross.

One photo shows Eva and Glaeken sitting on bed and talking and one other shows both of them on some hill. Part of this scene is still in the movie. Originally Glaeken and Eva spend more time getting to know each other at the inn. There was a scene where she wakes up to find him gone and tries to open the case. He walks in on her and confronts her about it. This scene is reported to be added for old TV versions of the movie.

One photo shows father Mihail drinking the blood of his dead dog (who was probaly killed by him) from some kind of glass or cup inside the church while his eyes are bloody red.

After Eva walks in on the priest drinking the blood of his dog, she wanders through the village where she comes across Alexandru the caretaker being murdered by his sons. One photo shows the actor that played Alexandru while fake axe in his back. Eva runs to the inn keeper for help,but he threatens to throw her out because she hasn't paid. The whole village is becoming cruel and evil, affected by the keep.

One photo shows Molasar standing in front of the keep's entrance,but there is no such scene in the movie.

One photo shows Eva sitting next to her father after he is "hit" by Molosar's power and returned into his diseased state. From what it looks on photo,Eva is begging Molasar not to hurt them. If you look at this part in movie,you can see that there is fast cut (listen to the soundtrack) from where Molasar is looking at Eva and her holding her father.

There are several other scenes that look like they were cut;

Concetration camp scene - Pay attention on last moments of the scene. Professor Cuza is looking right one second,and next he is looking left. Maybe he had some dialogue in the scene but it was cut.

First conversation scene between Woermann and Kaempffer inside the keep - After Kaempffer rises up from chair,it sound like dialogue between two of them was cut short,just a second before soldier enters the room and informs them about finding remains of soldier Steiner,latest victim.

Alternate endings

1. Theatrical ending

Glaeken enters the keep,picks up the talisman and places it in his "sword",and kills Moloasar. After Molasar dissapears,Glaeken is also pulled into the keep while Eva is screaming "No!"

TV versions had extended ending where Glaeken is flying around darkness for some time while villagers take Eva's father inside one house. Eva then goes inside the keep,searches for Glaeken and finds him dead. After she touches him,he revives and his eyes are no longer in strange color,and he crawls towards the stream where he sees his reflection,meaning that he became human. Eva hugs him and movie ends. Some promotional photos like lobby cards and stills show this last scene.

This extended ending can be seen here; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoHldOn-i9E

However,there are two photos showing even longer ending where Glaeken,Eva and her father are on boat,probaly going towards Greece.
Apart from finale with boat travel,this ending is pretty much the same as the one in original book.

2. Duel ending

Parts of this ending were filmed,but because of the death of Wally Veevers,the special effects man for the movie,it was never finished.

Glaeken and Molasar are fighting on the roof of the keep.

Several photos show Glaeken holding Molasar by the throat.

Then some blue light appears between them and roof crashes,with both of them falling inside the keep.

What follows is similar scene like the one in extended TV version ending where Glaeken is flying around. But in "Duel" ending Glaeken and Molasar are falling together.

Afterwards,it is not known what's happened next cause this ending was never released,but i'm sure that final part is same or at least similar to the one in extended TV ending where Eva finds Glaeken and he awakens.

Interesting,there is one report about different,10 minutes long ending from some TV version that has no dialogue or explanation about what is happening and why. In this ending Glaeken and Molasar are falling through some strange,otherworldy abyss while shooting their "lasers" at one another untill eventually Glaeken survives barely the fight. Maybe somebody decided to include unfinished and unedited "Duel" ending for some TV cuts.

3. Glaeken carries Molasar into the keep.

This ending is rumored by some fans to appear in another TV version.

All it's been said about this ending is that it shows Glaeken carrying dead Molasar into the keep.

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[–] Pineapples101 12 years ago

Superb post! Many thanks for the detailed information.

Do it Doug!!!!
http://movie-memorabilia-emporium.blogspot.com/

[–] Nick7080 12 years ago

"Superb post! Many thanks for the detailed information."

Thank you very much! I'm always in a search for different versions of many movies. If you are interested in some of my other posts about certain movie,just click on my name and take a look at some of my previous reports.

P.S. I noticed several spelling mistakes on my second post here,but i'm heading out to fix them right now.

[–] Pineapples101 12 years ago

Cool. Im the same, obsessed with deleted scenes, alternative TV cuts, Workprints etc

You should add your info to the trivia and / or alternative versions section of IMDB

Do it Doug!!!!
http://movie-memorabilia-emporium.blogspot.com/

[–] Nick7080 12 years ago

"Cool. Im the same, obsessed with deleted scenes, alternative TV cuts, Workprints etc"

Well,i'm glad that i'm not the only one!

I just checked that "movie-memorabilia" link and i'm very impressed with it. You got some of THE THING pictures which i never saw!

Do you happen to have photos or some other stuff about Stallone movie NIGHTHAWKS from '81? I am a great fan of that movie and for the last few years i'm collecting pics of it.

"You should add your info to the trivia and / or alternative versions section of IMDB"

Yes,maybe i should,but i just spend most of the night repairing some of my other posts after i found out that one *beep* tricked me.

I might eventually post some of the info about original cut of THE KEEP,but not anytime soon.

[–] victora87 11 years ago

This is the best post that I have ever read on IMDB!
Congratulations and thanks from a long time fan of this classic cult film.

[–] earthman34 12 years ago

I know the alternate endings exist, because I've seen them. I also know they shot a scene of Glaeken, Eva, and Cuza leaving on a boat, and a scene where Glaeken was attacked on the boat heading for Romania. There were some scenes being filmed for an extended fight sequence at the end as well, but I don't think those were completed. I think the film that came out was basically the cut that the studio wanted, but I don't know that if Mann did a cut of his own that there would be that much more material. Alot of people are assuming scenes exist because of stills and publicity shots, BUT, some of those could be still camera shots taken on set, and some could be from takes that were either not usable, or were part of a sequence that wasn't finished.

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[–] earthman34 12 years ago

I believe that is a movie "myth". Others who worked on the film say that there simply was not that much footage shot. There is an extended ending, and a different "death" scene with Molasar, but other than that, I think the 3 1/2 hour film is wishful thinking by fans, kind of like the 6 hour version of Dune that also doesn't exist. There may have been 3 1/2 hours of film shot, but that doesn't mean it's all usable.

[–] tassletine 12 years ago

I've personally worked with one of the AD's on The Keep and he said that they were shooting 24hours a day (different units obviously) for months. The production was completely out of control but there was definitely enough footage shot. A 3 hour rough cut, especially for someone like Mann, would be standard practice. A lot of rough cuts are around that length.

[–] etrenkamp 12 years ago

Like Dr. Cuza, I've been studying The Keep for most of my life. Based on various drafts of the script, interviews with cast and crew, stills made available by Stephane Piter and others and analyses of the editing of the film here is a list of scenes that were shot but do not appear in the film (p.s. I'm watching a dvd of The Keep while I type this):

1. The village inn - after the Germans settle into the keep, the preist is having dinner with the caretaker and inn keeper in the inn. They discuss their hope that something bad will happen to the Germans and the priest warns that "when night falls, it falls on us all."

2. Molasar is released - in the script several more soldiers were attacked by Molasar immediately after he's released. They're described as being thrown through the air and engulfed by blackness. This is where the photo of Woermann running from the light of the silver cross comes from. The shot that is used, an outtake of the soliders firing into the air, is from later in the film after Glaeken is shot.

3. Glaeken is attacked on the ship. The captain of the boat (Carlos, played by Yashar Adem) tries to steal Glaeken's box while he's sleeping. Glaeken kills him.

4. Eva at the inn - Glaeken and Eve spend more time getting to know each other at the inn. She wakes up to find him gone and tries to open the case. He walks in on her and confronts her about it. They end up making love.

5. Murder in the village - after Eva walks in on the priest drinking the blood of his dog, she wanders through the village where she comes across the caretaker being murdered by his sons. She runs to the innkeeper for help, but he threatens to throw her out because she hasn't paid. The whole village is becoming cruel and evil, affected by the keep.

6. The duel - parts of an alternate ending were shot where Glaeken faces off against Molasar on top of the keep rather than inside of it. They have a physical confrontation that would've ended with them being sucked into the keep ala the current ending. As they fall through the abyss under the keep they battle through space and time. This would've been similar to the stargate sequence in 2001. Eva runs back into the keep, down into the lowest level where she finds Glaeken's body engulfed in blue laser light. She touches him which revives him, revealing that his eyes are now brown and he has a reflection.

7. Final scene - Glaeken, Eva and crippled Dr. Cuza sail to freedom aboard the ship that brought Glaeken to Romania.

If you want to know about The Keep, check Stephane Piter's amazing website http://the.keep.free.fr/default_en.htm

Here are three reasons why The Keep is such as hot mess:

1) Because Michael Mann went way over budget and schedule, he was shut down before he could finish filming. According to Scott Glenn, at least three major sequences, including the ending, where never completed.

2) Mann's rough assembly was 3 1/2 hours long, but this is average for the rough assembly of any 2 hour film. His final cut of the film would probably be no longer than 110 minutes. However, he was taken off the project before he could finish his cut. This was probably consensual as he probably felt that he couldn't complete the film without the unfinished scenes and without a new FX supervisor (Wally Veevers, who was to oversee all of the visual FX, including the epic space/time battle, died during production and Paramount did not want to hire a replacement. Hence, the number of unfinished FX shots in the final film) and Paramount did not want to spend more money on a film they didn't understand.

3. Apparently, there are some legal issues surrounding Tangerine Dreams compositions in the film. This made the announced soundtrack release impossible and has complicated the home video release. The official The Keep soundtrack that TD released contains very little of the music used in the movie. This may be due to legal issues, or these recordings may be the actual music intended for the film.

These legal issues are believed to be resolved as Paramount announced that they would release The Keep on DVD in 2005. The street date came and went and the DVD never materialized. It is believed that Mann, coming off the success of Collateral asked Paramount as a personal favor not to release the DVD. He refuses to talk about the film publicly and does not list it on his filmography.

[–] tassletine 12 years ago

Thanks, that was great.

[–] youneedahug 12 years ago

Good to see you back here, etrenkamp. I thought you had passed on maybe. You've always had some of the better posts on this board. Too bad they've all been wiped out (as have my posts as well through the years).

I mentioned it in another thread, but do you know where the story behind there being a 3-hour cut originates? As time passed, I started believing it was just one of those unsubstantiated Internet rumours. Even with the verification above of someone who worked with one of the AD's, it seems unfathomable to me that Paramount would lop off nearly half of the rough cut, and even with the deleted scenes you mention it seems implausible that those scenes plus the scenes that made the theatrical cut would add up to three hours, much less three-and-a-half.

[–] etrenkamp 12 years ago

Thanks for remembering me and my posts. The three hour cut was mentioned in an interview by one of the crew members, but for the life of me I can't remember who or where it was posted.

I know that Stephane Piter had the interview archived on his site, but he has recently removed all of the great reference material he has collected over the years (cast & crew interviews, behind the scenes photos, different script drafts, etc.) in preparation for his upcoming documentary about the film.

I did come across this trailer, which I've never seen before:
http://www.reelz.com/movie/183967/the-keep/

This is interesting because it states the release date as June, not December, which means that the footage was probably pulled from an earlier cut of the film. The footage is almost identical to final trailer except that it features one shot of Molasar standing in the entrance way of the keep. I've never seen this shot before.

[–] Nick7080 11 years ago

Hey,sorry for late reply,

Thanks for the info. I fixed my previous post about deleted scenes.

[–] kurt-wiley 11 years ago

Thanks for interesting info on THE KEEP. Not quite the original novel but at times was atmospheric and genuinely scary. Are there any DVD versions of THE KEEP available that include any extended or excluded scenes from the original (and apparently butchered) theater release?

[–] bluhorn-673-810937 11 years ago

Nope, just the theatrical version. There was a TV version that aired an extended ending, which you can see on youtube.

[–] FabioPirovano 11 years ago

Thanks God,Michael Spoke recently about Wally almost Esoteric Skills on special Effects nobody else can do what Veevers was able to do..one of reason which this film is not optimized..

"life is Chiaroscuro matter" Fabio

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[–] StepstonefilmsImdb 10 years ago

What a great thread. I absolutely love this film and have been fascinated by the stories of an extended version, so this info is invaluable.

I don't suppose anyone could point me in the right direction of the screenplay????