The Keep...Reboot? - The Keep (1983) Discussion

[–] Ashley Pomeroy 14 years ago

I suspect that the Scott Glen part would either be removed, or simply merged with the Ian McKellen part; it seemed senseless to add a random guy who just appears for no obvious reason. The idea of a film in which Nazis fight a demon is attractive - just for the spectacle of a bunch of crack SS troops and their tanks being wiped out by a glowing man in a rubber suit - although as a lot of the reviews pointed out, who do you root for? I further suspect that the whole Jewish thing would be unsound these days, or at the very least a barrier to foreign sales.

In practice a reboot would star nobody particularly famous and would be directed by Rob Zombie or Uwe Boll, or someone who could bring it in for a very low budget. A modern update set in Iraq, with an ancient Mesopotamian evil fighting the US army would be intriguing, but the low budget would be a major problem. It would involve a man in a rubber suit fighting against a dozen US troops and a jeep.

It wouldn't be The Keep without slo-mo shots of people running in blue light with Tangerine Dream. Take that away and it's just a monster movie.

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[–] NateWatchesCoolMovies 14 years ago

Reboot? No reason really, stupid idea.
What we really need is a Blu Ray release, wit the two plus hours that were originally
cut, with remastered, also full isolated score etc. The works! now i'm getting myself excited...

"Animals are beasts, but Men are Monsters..."

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[–] derrick_gilbert 14 years ago

Or maybe they could do something really daring and actually base the character on the one from the book that explains his reasons for building the keep and trapping Rasalom within it. :)

*high five*

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[–] roland-rockerfella 14 years ago

It's a pity that it probable will never happen for this is one of the best vampire stories about. The old version is pretty tacky and doesn't even follow the book very closley. I would love to see a tv miniseries made where the time was taken to tell the story properly. Still the way Hollywood is remaking just about everything these days who knows?.

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[–] Romani_grl 14 years ago

Did any of you actually read the Fricking book!?! Half your comments are ridiculous and the other half seriously uninformed!

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[–] blameline 13 years ago

Seriously... I read the book and was reminded of a quote from 1983's Deathtrap:

Sidney Bruhl: I'll tell you how good it is. Even a gifted director couldn't hurt it.

Unfortunately, Michael Mann, a gifted director, screwed the film up. The Keep needs to be remade with a faithful adaptation of the book.

Next thing they'll be breeding us like cattle. You've gotta tell them. SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!

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[–] Romani_grl 13 years ago

No disagreement here- my comment was not regarding a remake...but in the views and misinformation about the story itself. The original film was a mess (but ok on its own)- the book was great.

Minte vreodata regula de trei

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[–] KMR 13 years ago

I agree with blameline. This is a movie - not unlike Logan's Run (from the 70's) - that could actually BENEFIT from a remake, as it was done imperfectly the first time and could actually be improved upon - given the right director, etc. What makes me grumpy are all the threads on IMDB with users calling for remakes of classic movies that could scarcely be improved upon (no examples given here, as pretty much every really good movie of note ever made has such a thread on IMDB). It's become this weird parlor game with a lot of folks. Anyway, I for one would welcome a remake of The Keep that followed the book a lot more closely.

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[–] billbink 12 years ago

It doesn't need a remake..it needs a director's cut release on Blu-Ray. Face it, Michael Mann has, over the years, proven what a great director he is (Heat, Thief, Last of the Mohicans, etc.). His original cut of this film is 3.5 hours and Paramount whittled it down to 90 freakin' minutes. If Mann was allowed to add in another hour of the original film, I just know this would make it a much better film. Yeah, I read the book and know how Mann changed significant elements of the storyline (which made F Paul Wilson furious), but it wouldn't be the first time that significant changes made a greater "movie" than a faithful adaptation of the book would have been. I liked the more supernatural take on Molasar, myself. And the actors in the Mann film all wound up being great actors who all had iconic roles waiting for them later in their careers. Finally, I don't understand people who don't like the Tangerine Dream score. It's great. And they were very "hot" at that time, also doing the score for Mann's movie Thief, as well as Miracle Mile, Risky Business, and others. It just sucks that Mann and Paramount can't come to terms. Paramount needs to let him re-cut the film (if the original cut is available) and Mann needs to get off his high horse and let bygones be bygones. And F Paul Wilson needs to come to terms that when you option your book to be made into a movie, if you don't insist on (and get) script approval, tough *beep* Paddy Chayefsky felt the same way about Ken Russell's version of his book Altered States but it's the nature of the beast - sad to say.

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[–] freakinmayhem 12 years ago

I read the book too and agree this could make a good remake. One thing I would change is that I thought the two German characters that Prochnow and Byrne played were much more interesting than the hero, the one who was played by Scott Glenn and the romance felt tacked-on. I would combine Prochnow and Glenn's characters and get rid of the romance.

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[–] jpowell180 10 years ago

Per IMDB's page on Peter Weir (director of The Truman Show and Master and Commander), he is slated to direct, however this is in pre-production and details are only available on IMDB Pro....

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[–] FabioPirovano 10 years ago

..sad know that.. but it's for Jennifer Egan book The Keep

"To photograph: it is to put on the same line of sight the head, the eye and the heart."HCB

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[–] FabioPirovano 10 years ago

Casting/Starring:
Michael Fassbender Glaeken / Capt.Woermann
Tom Hiddleston Kaempffer
Bryan Fisher Glaeken
Luke Evans Glaeken / Kaempffer
IanMcKellen Old/diseased Dr.Cuza/Tomescu
Jackson Rathbone Kaempffer
Williem Dafoe Kaempffer
Joel Edgerton Capt.Woermann
David Bradley Tomescu
Bryan Cranston Alexandru
Benicio del Toro Father Fonescu
Sebastian Stan Healed Younger Dr.Cuza/ Glaeken
Barry Pepper Glaeken
Ted Levine Alexadru
Stephen Lang Tomescu
Rebecca Spence EVA
Eva Green EVA
Marion Cotillard Eva
Merritt Patterson Eva
Kerry Condon Eva
Jessica Chastain Eva
Alexandra Breckenridge
Direct:
Michael Mann
Production Designer
Rick Heinrichs-Arthur Max-Guy Hendrix Dyas
Set Decoration
James V. Kent-John Bush-Richard Roberts
Cinematography
Dante Spinotti ASC AIC - Dion Beebe ASC ACS - Ben Davis BSC -
Costume Designer
Janty Yates-Colleen Atwood
Editing
Jeffrey Ford-William Goldenberg-Colby Parker Jr.-Kevin Stitt
Music
John Murphy-Max Richter-Martin Tillman-Atticus Ross

"To photograph: it is to put on the same line of sight the head, the eye and the heart."HCB

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[–] asiamatron 10 years ago

As others have said, this film is crying out for a good remake. Films that had good ideas but plenty of flaws are often worth remaking and that is what remakes should be used for.

The remake should be more faithful to the book though as a lot of good lore can be found there. One of the problems with Mann's film is it didn't bother to develop Glaeken or Molasar/Rasalom/Sal Roma etc as characters. The writers seemed to be more interested in the relationships between the other main characters; that's fine but it makes Glaeken in particular seem like an afterthought when he is actually very important to the plot.

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[–] FabioPirovano 10 years ago

Modern hadware / technology can help to be more on the book ,but what Michael Mann have done for my tastes is great

"To photograph: it is to put on the same line of sight the head, the eye and the heart."HCB

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