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I thought she was suppose to be all smart and stuff...


Teegra: is she stupid? How the hell is a knife going to cut through a chain? Seriously, her attractiveness dropped a bit with that one.



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I am not sure why we were supposed to think she was particularly smart. I saw it as an acceptable act of desperation; however, the script was very cliché, and we were to see Teegra as a damsel in distress. I was frankly surprised when she actually fought back with some of her would-be captors.

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She is introduced as being 'book learned' and someone who shows an interest in her kingdom; also expected to take over the throne.(??sort of) She wants to fight but "her 'duty' is to learn": she'd rather be fighting along side her father and brother. This is how she's introduced, but then later she's regressed into a stereotypical "stupid woman". This isn't like Burt Reynolds in Deliverance; it's like they build up this chick to be so awesome; smart and wanting to fight; but tare her down when any manly hero is about. It's like she's only smart enough to outsmart the sub-humans.

Anyways, there's a live-action remake coming, and I hope they at least make her smart enough to know that a knife can't cut though chain. Would a man, in this movie, have made the same mistake? Probably not; they're all too awesome for that.



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Ahhh, well, I need to learn to pay attention better. I suppose her behavior threw that introduction right out the window. This film was indeed meant to convey the cliché of male warriors being "awesome" and the women being eye candy and scream queens, save for Necron's mother. I would not mind seeing something a bit more developed. I would not expect her to be some great fighter who can go toe-to-toe with experienced warriors, but definitely making her seem more apt to use her wits rather than her tonsils would be nice.

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Agreed.

And for some reason Necron always reminded me of an 80s heavy metal rocker. Completely OT though.



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"I would not mind seeing something a bit more developed. I would not expect her to be some great fighter who can go toe-to-toe with experienced warriors, but definitely making her seem more apt to use her wits rather than her tonsils would be nice."

That's what happened and if you think that something more developed doesn't mean she'll go toe to toe with experienced warriors then you haven't seen a film in the last 30 years because that's all you'll get.

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I thought that was good.
We have enough of the woman with no fighting experience suddenly become unstoppable fighting machines over the course of a film and beating up fighters with training, experience and size and strength over her.

I thought she was going to become the trite cliched tough girl we see a thousand times and have obligatory Jane Rambo sequences to show how much smarter and tougher she is compared to all the men in the film but that didn't happen.

She turned out to be more like a real person would in that situation though I doubt a real person would survive as long as she did.

I guess we have to see a woman beating up lots of men and looking down on her teammates to be considered tough these days and a normal woman struggling, though overcoming the odds successfully, is far too close to reality that people can't handle it.

Seriously, what fighting training or experience did she have? She was giving it the big talk but talk is one thing and doing it is something else something people forget.

The "hero" was at first a coward and if it hadn't been for Darkclaw and Teegra he'd be dead several times over. He was at times clumsy and out of his depth and spent more time running than fighting.

That was great too. I'm sick of the unstoppable "Bourne's" in films whether male or female and I wan't characters that aren't too much of a cliche or there to appease the feminist but actually have to struggle and earn what they've accomplished rather than it be another case of we have to shoehorn a "strong female" into the film and then every other male character has to look bad just so she can look good.

Because if you have to that then the character isn't all that to start with

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Well her looks could kill.

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