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COUGAR or PEDO?

posted 13 years ago by YankeeDood
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I'm not criticizing the relationship, just the fact that if Ellen was a man and Jonathan a girl, the relationship would be regarded as "sick" and that is sexual bias.
Personally, I believe the relationship is fine because Jonathan is an older teenager, not a little kid. People need to know the difference. Sure, the relationship may not be ideal, but the only harm that came out of it was the fact Ellen lied about being single. Jonathan wasn't emotionally scarred by her "rape", far from it, he had a hot time.

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[–] SweatFromAFatMan 12 years ago

In Russia, the legal age is when you step out of the mother's womb...

[–] gabby_bm 12 years ago

In America, the boy eat the cougar.
In Russia, the cougar eat the boy!
America..I love it!
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[–] Lokisgodhi 11 years ago

Neither.

It's obvious that Skip's mother has a horrible relationship with his father. She's a deeply troubled woman seeking acceptance, affection and validation she's clearly not getting at home.

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[–] Nixon_Carmichael 9 years ago

A lot of Americans are ignorant to this, not just you, but you obviously have no idea what "pedophilia" is. It is when one is attracted to a prepubescent individual.

Andrew McCathary's character was obviously a physically mature adult. I think the term for which your limited intellect is searching would be the term "statutory rapist", not "pedophile".

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J.

[–] tjerj1 8 years ago

You sound obese and ignorant.

[–] dailyshampoo48 9 years ago

i think it's sexual bias that women are labelled "sluts" for sleeping around, while young men are encouraged to get out there and become experienced. unfortunately we live in a culture where sexual harrassment is A Thing and the wide margin of cases directed toward a particular gender. call it "patriarchy" call it "culture", but this is merely a reaction to what is understood to be a predatory status quo.

i agree that this could have v easily become rapey tho. i never felt that bisset was taking advantage of him however.

[–] millsyooksy 9 years ago

Andrew's a senior in high school so he's 18 which is the age of consent in the US

[–] jgroub 8 years ago

Nope; you don't turn 18 until the "spring semester" of the senior year. She f@cked him on Halloween - remember all the costumes? In fact, he could still be 16, because he could still be a senior and be born December 31.

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[–] Druffmaul 8 years ago

She was genuinely shocked when she stumbled upon his ID and saw that he was actually only 18. She honestly thought he was older. She may be a poor judge of age, but she didn't intend to rob the cradle.

[–] daveyh (634) 10 months ago

It's possible though that her shock and snap decision to run away upon seeing his ID wasn't because she found out that he was only 17/18, it was the fact that it was his "Vernon Academy" ID, meaning that he went to the same school and was in the same year (and therefore probably in the same classes) as her son.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

I think we are meant to feel sympathetic towards the woman in this film. If the gender roles were reversed they wouldn't have cared about that as much. American Beauty kind of comes close to a similar story but with gender roles reversed.