so where's the army?
I find it odd that the only people fighting the Visitors are a group of average people led by a TV cameraman. Where's the US Army in all this? Marines, Navy, Airforce, even the coast guard could put up a decent fight.
shareAll been converted, no doubt all the major generals were the 1st to be converted and their troopswould then follow their orders without question, maybe a few of the military would have deserted and fought with the resistance like we saw some of the police joining up with the resistance or at least aiding them
shareThere's actually a scene in the original, where Donovan is snapping shots of a military base, which has been effectively taken over by the Visitors.
He even comments, "Of course the military are cooperating fully. They're all under house arrest."
The Visitors probably moved in quickly to subdue the miltary. While really nothing was a threat to the mother ships, the militaries of Earth could certainly be a threat to the smaller crafts and Visitor troops.
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sharewhat a crappy movie this was who likes it??? really? it is no wonder
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"what a crappy movie this was who likes it??? really? it is no wonder
passport that authenticates"
With sentence structure like that I have no doubt you could write the remake and take this series to a whole new level.
Having seen the attempted remake and enough episodes, it's quite possible he had!!
shareExactly, that much was made pretty clear, from what I remember. The interesting thing is that the visitors pretty much had to use subterfuge - because militarily, they pretty much sucked. Despite the advanced technology they possessed, they were weak. Even their damn laser/blaster/whatever weapons were disastrously bad. (How many characters got directly hit, which pretty much nothing but a painful burn mark to show for it?) Although I doubt it was intended, I would argue that, possibly, they were actually a somewhat more socially evolved race than us, and they had progressed beyond human aggression, and beyond using science to come up with new ways of killing. So, when a crisis came to their planet (no food or water), and they were forced to harvest humans for food and steal the Earth's water, they wisely decided to use deception rather than force. I think that, had they simply tried a direct attack, they would've been blown out of the sky.
I would argue that, possibly, (the Visitors) were actually a somewhat more socially evolved race than us, and they had progressed beyond human aggression, and beyond using science to come up with new ways of killing.
Why does that define "more socially evolved" in your opinion? share
There are several possible explanations.
* Before the "Leader" came along, they were a peaceful, fairly civilised race (parallels here with the Germans, who WWI notwithstanding produced many great composers, philosophers etc and were for a long period more progressive than most of Europe) It's hinted at that the planet is dying, so maybe extreme causes created extreme government (as did hyperinflation and social chaos in Weimar Germany)
* They were actually using ANOTHER race's technology, but were not good at developing their own. As they are more or less parasitic upon mankind, and the Planet Earth, it is possible that they managed to infiltrate and take over another civilisation from within... but couldn't progress much beyond what that other (dead?) race had invented.
* They have a severe shortage of resources. Their voyage to Earth is driven by desperation, so it's possible that they couldn't afford too many expensive and highly advanced units, or to maintain them, but they only took the technology necessary, and which they could afford.
Yes, and I always thought that since they needed water, resources and food (us), they didn't want to engage in warfare where we would deploy nuclear power and ruin the earth. They just wanted to take everything back.
sharewas it ever revealed that they the visitors were using the technology from another race? I know that the visitors has been defeated by another alien civilization but other than that I was under the impression that they had developed their tech on their own
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"was it ever revealed that they the visitors were using the technology from another race? I know that the visitors has been defeated by another alien civilization but other than that I was under the impression that they had developed their tech on their own"
When Donovan was talking to one of the aliens they mentioned that the leader took power due to the desperation but had enemies, not all agreed with him, which was compared to earthly dictatorships. They also implied that they had a more powerful enemy and used radio satelites to send an SOS, though the visitors enemy never arrived.
As for the military, most were collaborating with the visitors under the assumption they were peaceful. Even so I don't think any earthly military could defeat the visitors. They probably could've infected humanity with a virus using the cancer cure as the pretext and then once everyone had died, well most, they could easily take over the Earth with minimal damage to the environment.
the only problem with wiping out the human race is that it would mean that the visitors could no longer use us as a food supply. of course during the final battle crazy Diana wanted to wipe us all out anyway
itchy, wretched, rust in my aft. -Jetfire
* Before the "Leader" came along, they were a peaceful, fairly civilised race (parallels here with the Germans, who WWI notwithstanding produced many great composers, philosophers etc and were for a long period more progressive than most of Europe) It's hinted at that the planet is dying, so maybe extreme causes created extreme government (as did hyperinflation and social chaos in Weimar Germany)
Yep. And when the (weekly) series started.....I remember someone saying the situation had really become a crisis on their home world in the year long gap between the end of the Final Battle and the beginning of the series.
I think it was also alluded to (at one point) that their "Leader" came under Diana's (corrupting) influence. They were lovers at some point.
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