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I really liked this film but.......


I don't really believe the country would have not known or suspected that was a man. As womanly as he looked you can still see his manliness too. I believe a lot of people would have suspected that was a man or thought that lady sure is manly looking.

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Probably some people would have suspected it, but not everyone, IMO. It's an element of the story we have to accept or we ain't got much of a story.


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no way, he looked like my aunt, old single women who don't have sex usually look manly.

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I don't understand the number of threads here in which people say he was not believable as a woman and everyone would know immediately that he was a man. I disagree--he did not look like a man. Granted, he was not a "pretty" woman but he did not look manly--his small body greatly helped with that.

Additionally, the OP states that the country would have known or suspected that Dorothy was a man. I am not so sure. Here is a list of actresses who would be suspected as being men long before Dorothy would be (and I am sure there are more):

Kristen Johnston (I always thought so but watch just ten seconds of her in the Broadway production of The Women on YouTube and you will see it is undeniable)

Mariel Hemingway

Kathleen Turner (in her current state)

Diane Salinger

Anna Paquin - Not only does she look like a man, she looks like a straight up fugly man.

If no one truly ever suspected these women of being men then I don't think they would suspect Dorothy Michaels of being a man.


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I'd hate to see your review of Katharine Hepburn, then. Gads, grow UP.

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I'd hate to see your review of Katharine Hepburn, then.


Interestingly, in 1935, Hepburn played a young girl disguised as a boy "Sylvia Scarlet":
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0027067/combined

And was extremely good.

Cary Grant is also wonderful, and we get to see them both doing some light and lovely acrobatics.

As for Hoffman, I think he made a very plausible woman. Also, way at the audition, Coleman's character comments that there's something odd about Dorothy. Rita says "I like it." So there's a nice little moment, and evidence that people will sometimes not see further than first sight.

Also, Michael Dorsey is very committed to Dorothy, and is a gifted, though difficult actor. To him, Dorothy becomes a real person, almost separate from him. One of the nice moments is when he explains how Dorothy got her way in doing a scene, pauses moment, then says to Jeff: "I think Dorothy's smarter than I am." And goes on to wish he could give her nicer hair, because she deserves it. Dorothy becomes a real woman because Michael makes her so.

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I think that Dustin Hoffman managed to fool another actor while he was doing this movie. It's hard to tell how convincing I would have found him IRL.

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He's completely unconvincing as a woman. It's a ridiculous story.

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Really?

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It's been years since I saw this movie. I remember when it came out, I knew a woman who looked a lot like Dorothy--similar hair and face, same glasses. Now all these years later what surprises me is how much more feminine and less ugly Dustin Hoffman is in the movie than I remember.

I think now the accusations of being gay and hot for Jessica Lange's character would have started a lot sooner. But he is such a small man and the make-up was so well done, his voice was so good, that I don't think it would have been nearly as obvious as these posters seem to think. Provided the weather helped and stayed cold enough that he was allowed to wear such concealing clothing week after week. The soap would be putting Dorothy in sexier clothes--that is what they do now, ever since that study came out in the 90s showing that children directly associate exposed skin with attreactiveness. Now they all must wear sleeveless, above-the-knee, open neck clothing. Dorothy would not have had a chance without plastic surgery.

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