From the Goofs page @ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084726/trivia?tab=gf
Saavik expresses her surprise that Spock lied, yet she had previously invented Rule 15 so that she could accompany the Admiral to the Station. Inventing a rule to suit her own purpose is a lie.
I felt it made sense with the context that she was half Romulan. Too bad they excised that.
shareI didn't get the impression that she made it up, why do you think she did?
It seems to me that either of Kirk or Spock (more likely Spock) would know the general order 15 and would have called her out on it if she was making it up.
General Order 15: No flag officer shall beam into a hazardous area without armed escort.
Note that Kirk states that "there's no such regulation", and Saavik's response of understated amusement suggests either that her description of this general order is not accurate and intended only to help persuade Kirk to allow her on the landing party, OR that the regulation exists and Kirk was knowingly trying to circumvent it.
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Starfleet_General_Orders_and_Regulations
I may be wrong (certainly wouldn't be the first or the last time) but I thought Kirk was saying that in a joking "there can't possibly be a regulation telling me that I can't do something I want to do" or "who the hell would possibly know or track this type of administrative nonsense??"
It didn't occur to me for a moment over the last 24(!) years that Saavik was lying. It's hard to believe that she would, either because she's part Vulcan or because she's so junior. (I'm a military Officer and junior Officers so rarely lie to senior Officers that it would strike me very oddly that she'd just make it up.)
I may be wrong (certainly wouldn't be the first of the last time) but I thought Kick was saying that in a joking "there can't possibly be a regulation telling me that I can't do something I want to do" or "who the hell would possibly know or track this type of administrative nonsense??"Given that he's known for being a commander who routinely violates regulations, the first assertion would be more in keeping with his personality. The second one seems unlikely to me given how he had just hours before ordered her to carry on quoting Starfleet regulations.
It didn't occur to me for a moment over the last 24(!) years that Saavik was lying. It's hard to believe that she would, either because she's part Vulcan or because she's so junior. (I'm a military Officer and junior Officers so rarely lie to senior Officers that it would strike me very oddly that she'd just make it up.)I agree, it is more likely that she was telling the truth (as she was an officer known for quoting regulations and going "by the book"). The idea that she'd go against the book or falsely quote a regulation doesn't seem to be in keeping with her character.
The second one seems unlikely to me given how he had just hours before ordered her to carry on quoting Starfleet regulations.I suppose it could be interpreted as Kirk momentarily returning to his 'pre-Khan-attack/I'm-gonna-do-what-I-want-after-years-of-deskwork/I-know-better-than-some-novice-trainee-so-be-still-kiddo' behavior before he realizes his mistake and reconfirms his earlier decision to follow Saavik's advice. share
He's just having fun with her. He'd already decided to indulge her rule book knowledge after the attack. He wasn't angry, unknowing, or trying to ditch her. It was a joke; he was TROLLING her, and she held back instead of taking the bait to explain it to him. He taunted a Vulcan, lost, and immediately gave it up.
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24 years ??? Try 34 years !
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