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is it fair to even call this a cult franchise anymore?


Evil Dead has practically become the default name associated with the term horror-comedy now.

Aside from Shaun of the Dead, I can't think of any other horror comedies that has become as beloved and celebrated by both mainstream audiences and horror afficianados alike. I suppose you could make a case for Ghostbusters, but that's just a comedy that happens to deal with the supernatural.

With that in mind, is it even fair to call this franchise cult anymore? Nearly everyone I've talked to (horror fan or not) has at least heard of these movies, and the character of Ash has become just as synonymous with the genre as the likes of Jason and Freddy.

For me, calling this franchise cult at this point would be like calling Nirvana underground.

What do you think?

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I think so yes, while a lot of people you've spoken too have heard of them that doesn't mean they enjoy or have seen it, cult films are those that are liked by a small group of people, not just known of by people although it does help with the statues if no one's heard of it either. Also my experience differs to yours, very few people I know have even heard of these movies, let alone seen the films which suggest it likely still does deserve the title.

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But a lot of the most famous films ever made aren't widely seen by your average moviegoers either. Movies like Citizen Kane, Casablanca, Gone With the Wind, and Seven Samurai are widely considered to be among the greatest films ever made, yet there are a lot of folks out there who only know them based off their iconic status. Hell, some may not have even heard of them (many millenials prefer quick, mindless entertainment on Instagram and Snapchat these days). Do you consider those films cult too?

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While that is true they were at still one point wildly popular, Gone With the Wind adjusted for inflation is still the highest grossing movie of all time. A cult film is a film with a small passionate fanbase. Like Rocky Horror or Evil Dead. Films that might be found at midnight screenings or special screenings, ones that might even be interactive (both the prior films I mentioned have interactive screenings, I myself have been to interactive Evil Dead screening (and brought along two friends, one of which is a big horror fan, who had not heard of the film before). Let's be honest, Evil Dead does not have as large a fanbase as the films you mentioned (that is why the TV series was cancelled, look at it's ratings, if it were a huge series it would've kept going). To add further anecdotal sources (I know they don't really count but this is in regards to your initial point) having even spoken to many older movie goers all of them have heard of those larger films but when I mention the Evil Dead unless they are cinephiles or horror fanatics they have never heard of it.

To add some figures domestically the biggest in the franchise (not including the new one which I will mention later) was AoD which grossed $11.5m ($22m WW) and the biggest overall was ED which grossed $29.4m ($2.7m domestic). To an extent a success and launched Sam Raimi's career but if it were a studio film these figures are abysmal. Looking at the new one on a $17m budget it grossed $97m WW and $55m domestic, those figures aren't great, while it did make it's budget back and does bring talks for a sequel I would hardly say that is the figures for a big budget film, and I doubt all of that is due to Evil Dead fans, a large part would be due to new audience members. To further elaborate, Fight Club is considered a cult film, it grossed $100m WW without inflation.

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I suppose I could make a case for Addams Family.

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