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The Character of the Lady Ann


Like so many of the contributors here, I read the TTSS and SP books many years ago in the 1980’s and enjoyed the BBC TV presentations. When at the end of TTSS, George Smiley goes down to the country to meet his wife, her appearance on screen was exactly as I imagined her. Curiously, I had met one of these aristocratic model girl types of women only once, with their casual relationships with men frequently younger than themselves, and her self-assured statement; “poor George - life is such a puzzle!” However, some of the other characters in the novels were vastly expanded when I saw the stories on screen. This, I put down to my limited imagination and the genius of the programme's directors, producers and actors. From reading many of your comments here, I can see that some of you have the same problem, including interpretation of minor nuances in the plot. For example, the dropped cigarette lighter plays considerable significance with it’s inscription “with all my love - Ann” engraved upon it. This in turn reflects the brilliance of an author such as le Carre whose troubled childhood and extra-ordinary confidence man for a father, provided the ground for A Perfect Spy drama.

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When my mum saw Sian Phillips on screen, sophisticated, confident and in her element, walking the grounds with George, she blurted out, "Why on earth would she marry Smiley?!"
My father, who had just finished "Call for the Dead", huffily told her that a reason she marries George is because he is so clever.





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Very good thread ! I liked the unconventional relationship of George and Lady Ann. Obviously, at a much earlier time, they enjoyed each other's company and conversation...although the old Smiley is nearly mute by the time we meet him in TTSS and SP. A younger version of George appears briefly in "The Spy Who Came in From the Cold," although that cinematic version of Smiley doesn't have much sex appeal, either.

Where did they meet ? Was young Lady Ann an British operative in WW II, with language skills picked up at aristocratic private schools ? Was she parachuted behind Nazi lines in France ? Were they both flung together by circumstance...taking risks together.

One can only assume that after a time that they were married, a "convenience" began between them where he was gone over long stretches and Lady Ann was allowed her various boyfriends to satisfy her. In return, she didn't blab about her husband's business and for a time, kept a landing spot open for George to nip into between out-of-town jobs for the Circus.

Karla and Bill Hayden certainly had a big part in the final skism.
How did Bill put it...."...it was Karla's idea. I just joined the queue, didn't I ?"

Obviously, that and her sarcasm (she would claim "witty interplay") began to deeply grate on George and he became the "Chelsey pensioner"...alone in his townhouse...close to his books and work at the Circus. And far away from Lady Ann's estate.

CmdrCody

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Ann and George met post WW II at the Circus, where she was a secretary (I want to say she was Controls secretary, but my memory is fuzzy). I believe in one of the Smiley books that she says the attraction for her was the he was “clever”.

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I think that a whole chapter of the first Smiley novel, Call for the Dead, is devoted to George meeting and marrying Ann, at the great surprise of their friends. From what I remember, she did work for the Circus as a secretary - a bit like Connie Sachs, but younger, she was a lady from a wealthy and influent family introduced in the Service by her background. I think she was the secretary of George's old mentor: not Control but an elderly gentleman who had recruited him right after college. Ann and George spent a lot of time together at the office. He proposed to her, she accepted and they went travelling a lot. Then troubles began...
I love their relationship. It's sad, original, yet very believable.


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I believe that this idea that English aristos were recruited for service in organisations such as MI5 has some basis in fact. They were considered to be sound material, perhaps with generations of service in the British Army or Navy. This probably made sense a generation or two ago, but does it still hold true today? I find this questionable as people today develop ideas and alliances that were unknown in the past. The idea of service to the Empire seems quaint in today’s world. Whoever thinks of devoting himself to the Commonwealth? The attitude today seems to be one of making money and look what has happened in that area with over-ambitious takeovers in Banking, not to mention the bonus culture? Perhaps this is why MI5 & MI6 advertise in the Press these days for suitable candidates? The outlook seems rather gloomy. Perhaps this is why there are current instances of members of the security services breaching their code of silence, and revealing highly classified material on the internet? Do they regard it as a matter of conscience?

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Jebedee was George's tutor and recruiter...

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I love their interplay, so soft, and so sad. She obviously came from money and with a name. She's really too sophisticated for him, though she obviously loves him. And he loves her, but feels burned and betrayed beyond repair. He doesn't even answer her proposal, but changes subject to "practicalities". It's over, he's done for, there's no going back. Between him and her, she would obviously have the upper hand, that vast estate, her background, her name, her money. But between them in that scene, he has the upper hand, and there's nothing she can do to save the situation. It's so sad, because they obviously love each other, and care for each other, and have "feelings" for each other.

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One has to wonder if there was a real "Lady Ann" in John Le Carre's / David Cornwell's life.

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"Between him and her, she would obviously have the upper hand, that vast estate, her background, her name, her money."

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It is a long time since I read the book, but I distinctly remember George discovering that the bulk of his month's salary had been withdrawn by Ann on one of her excursions in her car to East Anglia (George was puzzled as to the exact whereabouts). Lady Ann's family may have been wealthy, but she still looked to her hubby for day-to-day expenses. By and large, I would have thought the relationship would have been a pretty galling one, knowing as we do what an appalling trollop she was. But other readers may have a broader experience of this kind of situation, so perhaps they would care to enlighten us as how to cope with it?

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I haven't read the books, so my impressions are formed by her portrayal in the series, and extrapolation of my knowledge of the faith of the English landed gentry. So, I may be wrong...

But the "landed gentry" got their incomes from the land they owned. And owning land turned from assets to liabilites in the begninning of the 20th century, when the incomes began to be heavily taxated. There was a concentration and accumulation of assets, where smaller estates went bankrupt because their diminishing incomes couldn't pay the vast expenses of keeping such estates. Selling land to pay expenses means even smaller returns, and so on and so forth.

And larger and better prepared estates became even larger and better prepared, buying up the smaller ones going bust. A large manor house without land is just a money pit. Some of them were torn down, sold, or given away. Some became schools or nursing homes. This was the trend for most of the 20th century, up until some thirty years ago when the trend turned. And nowadays, those bankrupt estates would be worth tens and tens of millions of pounds.

But it seems Lady Ann is living on such an estate, Brideshead Revisited-style. Usually, the first son inherits the entire estate as a whole, and if he's a good son, he'll see to the rest of the family. The second son usually had to look elsewhere for a career, and the usual career path was the civil service or as an officer in the military. The third son usually had to go the colonies to make a fortune of their own. The daughters were married off and thus someone elses problem.

So, it may be true that the family had some connections with the military/intelligence, and that's why Lady Ann ended up as a secretary at MI5. It's not implausible at all, on the contrary. It seems very logical and true to form. But as it is her brother that runs the estate, she doesn't have any means by herself but her own income. Perhaps she's given an allowance by her brother, but we don't know anything about that. For her personal expenses, she's dependent on her own income, and married to George, by his income.

And the estate seems to have seen better days. What should they do to keep up expenses? Sell another Gainsborough? It may be a large estate, but the incomes seems meager. That means, her brother may own a wealth, but it's a wealth that can't be capitalized. They are short of cash, so to speak, it's a cash/flow problem. So, perhaps her brother just don't have that much cash to give her, if she would need some?

Though, I'd suspect that their large terraced house in London is bought by her means, or at least by her brothers. It's definitely bought on her insistance, I don't think George would care about such things. He's the most happy in his study in the basement anyway. He could never afford such accomodations on his salary, not even in those days. Being separated, she stays at the manor house, probably rent free, and indefinitely.

And that's the thing. Even if they belong together, he doesn't belong in her world. They may love each other, but they come from separate classes. And George doesn't seem comfortable with her way of life. When he's visiting her, they go for a walk, because he can't stand even being in the house for longer than necessary. Going for a walk in the woods, they are on equal grounds.

It's such a beautiful but sad tale. So very very sad...

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~~~~~This was the trend for most of the 20th century, up until some thirty years ago when the trend turned.~~~~~

That was when the British state returned to taxing poverty more than wealth.

Marlon, Claudia & Dimby the cats 1989-2010. Clio the cat, July 1997 - 1 May 2016.

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- and I really love the scene in the film where - unlike the novel - George sacks Ann. It gives him a different, and tougher, character: He is able 'do what a man's gotta do' when it is necessary, not brooding over the consequences.It's simply a question of whether you want the product.
It demonstrates with scaring clarity Smiley's ability to keep his mind separated from the object of thinking.

And makes it much more logical (than in the novel) why he does not pick the lighter (her present to him) from the ground. Why should he? Karla is finished. Ann is finished. And it's bedtime.

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Sooooo. . . Karla was the one who dropped the lighter at the end, right? Did I miss something? I think so, after all I saw the Acorn version which I understand had cut some scenes. Karla had the lighter that was given to Smiley by Lady Ann? How did Karla get it?

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In Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, Smiley recounts his previous encounter with Karla, in which he approached Karla — on his way home to imminent arrest and execution — and invited him to defect to the West. In the course of the interview, Smiley had offered him a carton of cigarettes and took out the lighter in case he wanted to light up. Karla said not a word during the interview, but he left with the cigarettes, and stole Anne’s lighter as well.

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The lighter, I think, is Karla's 'escape pass' if he ever wanted to defect. And I think Smiley is aware of that from the beginning.
If Karla wanted to defect when in the West, he only had to walk into a British (or any NATO country) Embassy, showing the lighter and demanding to talk to Smiley of the SIS.

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Aha! I think I should have watches Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy FIRST!

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Though the films (and the novels) are separate stories I would say that is a good idea!

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Seeing "Tinker Tailor" first of course helps a lot in understanding many things in "Smiley's People". I thought one line in TTSS really summed up the Ann situation for the viewers. Its not in the book, but works well. When he and George part after the noxious dinner they had together, Roddy Martindale says, "Love to Ann." but then comes the new line: "EVERYBODY'S love to Ann!" Smiley was steaming after having to spend time with the buffoon Martindale and that jab tells the viewer a lot about Ann.

Lady Ann is indeed part of the aristocracy who is hard up financially. Uncle Harry has to sell items to keep on living but not enough, or not enough interest, in using it to keep up the estate. (I believe he is cut from the Acorn edition - can't remember for sure.)

Hayden was just another in Ann's long line of younger men. He "joined the queue" as he says near the end of TTSS. Ann uses Smiley's money to keep up her roaming lifestyle. He ends up paying for suits for her lovers, gas for their car, she cleans out his pension check in one swoop at one time. He does nothing about it except inwardly fume. Finally, in Smiley's People he cuts it off, right when she suggests its time for them (ahem) to settle down.

By the frequent question "How's Ann?" that Smiley receives, we get a lot of info that nearly everyone knows of Smiley's marital situation. Some use it to take a dig directly to George, even Ricky Tarr when Guillam says regarding Irina, "Common law marriage... Unofficial but permanent." Tarr responds, "There’s a lot that are the other way round these day".

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She's symbolic of the boss class he works for.

Marlon, Claudia & Dimby the cats 1989-2010. Clio the cat, July 1997 - 1 May 2016.

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