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Cliff, Norm, and Frasier


Why would these three guys spend so much time in a bar? Why would they be such close friends with the people who work there? Are they sorry people? I mean we all know that Cliff is because that's his character, but why the other two?

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Yeah it was strange how Frasier had no time to be hanging around in bars during the run of his series.

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Was about to say the same thing. It's a drastic change of habits unless for some reason he was fond of Sam's bar in particular.

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Well, maybe he was. Maybe he never really gave up on Diane and kept frequenting even after she moved, in the hopes that somehow she would come back and it could happen. His thing with Lillith was doomed all along anyways.

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Frasier hated beer though in his series and drank it all the time in cheers. Never saw him drinking any sherry there. hehe

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Frasier on Cheers wasn't the same Frasier on Frasier. All of the sudden Frasier became the snobbiest of snobs on Frasier. I liked the character much more on Cheers.

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I noticed that as well. Although he always seemed like he was slumming it on Cheers anyway.

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Same here.

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It was the bad influence from Niles.

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Cliff and Norm make complete sense. Cliff is the know it all who thrived prior to the Internet and love bars.

Norm is your everyday worker who would be happy drinking anywhere at all.

Frasier is the anomaly.

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I don't think Cliff ever really "thrived" except for his fifteen minutes of fame on Jeopardy... and even that went badly for him.

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Because it's a TV show set in a bar!

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Probably the best explanation there can be for this.

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haha, yeah. what kind of show would it have been without regular characters?

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Well except that in real life lots of people are creatures of habit and go to the same places day after day or week after week. There is a donut shop near me and it seems to have a collection of regulars that I always see sitting down drinking coffee and talking when I stop by . I don't go every day just randomly every week or so but it doesn't seem to matter which day of the week, that same group is there. I suspect you find that same thing in bars as well. And remember there was an episode where Norm mentioned the way the bar was before Sam owned it, so he may have been a creature of habit that continue to return to that bar and would have done so even if it had become a gay bar, so long as it had the beer he liked he was probably always going to go there.

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I actually figured they all lived close by and this was just where they went to hang out and be with friends.

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I always thought it odd that Frasier hung out at this bar with a has-been baseball player, a blue-collar blowhard, and a cubicle-drone slob, then moved to Seattle and would never have frequented such a place or countenanced such inferiors in his social life.

While we're reviewing inconsistencies, what happened to Frasier's airline pilot older brother that he mentioned during "Cheers", and why, back then, did he never mention his psychiatrist younger brother?

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During the run of Cheers he also mentioned that his father was a scientist who had died.

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I think that was a cover story for the father he wished he had.

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Because continuity in TV shows was pretty much nonexistent back then.

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Before the Internet and cable TV, people used to hang out at bars after work. Typically you would hang out a bar close to your office and see the same people there week after week and get to know them.

Sometimes it's nice to go where everyone knows your name and doesn't expect too much from you except company.

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I used to frequent a bar years ago and would see the same people there week after week. after a while the bartender would have my drink ready as soon as I walked in. people talked to each other but it was nothing like Cheers.

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