Inconsistencies


All shows have them. But I still find hearing them interesting. Throughout the show, what are some you noticed?

Examples.
In 1 episode, Rebecca tells Sam about her actress sister, and how she can't stand her. When Sam actually meets Susan, and finds out who she is, and that she starred in a horror film, Sam says Rebecca never mentioned it.

Or when Lilith wants to have the Bris for Frederick. Frasier says he was raised without a religion and as such, he is happy for Lilith's Jewish faith so he son would not be spiritually deprived. But when Lilith and Frasier counsel Woody and Kelly on their differing religious faiths, Lilith says Frasier is Episcopalian.

Some you can explain away. Example, Frasier could easily have found religion when he was older. But despite being able to explain them away, it does still seem like it could have been minor oversight.

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On an early episode of Frasier, his Dad scolds him by saying "you don't say Grace before eating anymore?" Indicating it was something the family did regularly before.

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Well, the Show Frasier is the WORST with Cheers continuity. His dad wasn't even alive in Cheers!

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That explanation in "Frasier" is awful. Because his father and him had a fight that week, he told Sam his father was a dead scientist and not an alive cop? Weak explanation. Downright horrendous.


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by cjh8504 (Tue Jun 21 2016 21:53:12)
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That explanation in "Frasier" is awful. Because his father and him had a fight that week, he told Sam his father was a dead scientist and not an alive cop? Weak explanation. Downright horrendous.
It is a weak explanation, but nevertheless, it was an explanation.

So how do you explain the Righteous Brothers blunder of "Please Mr. Postman"?

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Nah. Bad writing in "Frasier" is what it was.

X-Men: Apocalypse 8/10. TMNT: Out of the Shadows 9/10. RIP Doris Roberts. You were wonderful in ELR.

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You don't know what the hell you're talking about. You don't even like Cheers, so why don't you just get the hell outta here, you stalker.

X-Men: Apocalypse 8/10. TMNT: Out of the Shadows 9/10. RIP Doris Roberts. You were wonderful in ELR.

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You're never here to talk about Cheers is why. The only reason you're here now is to be a thorn in my butt.

X-Men: Apocalypse 8/10. TMNT: Out of the Shadows 9/10. RIP Doris Roberts. You were wonderful in ELR.

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Well, the Show Frasier is the WORST with Cheers continuity. His dad wasn't even alive in Cheers!
Since many of the Cheers writers went on to become Frasier writers (most notably the Charles brothers), the inconsistency of Martin Crane's death could be considered a Cheers error, not a Frasier error.

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Another I think of.

When we get season 6, Rebecca is introduced as a hard-ass business woman. Carla stating she eats live sharks for breakfast, and has a small tv, just like her heart.

Just one season later -season 7, in The Gift of Woodi, Rebecca goes to Lilith to teach her how to be a "hard-ass business woman", before telling Carla to speak to the pretzel man because he scares her.

Clearly, the character changed because fans responded more to neurotic screw-up Rebecca than hard-ass Rebecca. But still funny to see, especially when it's just 1 season's difference. I was thinking the episode was at least in season 9 or 10. lol

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Rebecca dressed as Lilith is funny.

X-Men: Apocalypse 8/10. TMNT: Out of the Shadows 9/10. RIP Doris Roberts. You were wonderful in ELR.

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Frasier owned a dog in season 3 and was upset to get rid of him. In season 7, he's happy to walk up and stroke the doberman at the end of the bar. But in season 9 when Woody has that puppy, apparently he's never liked dogs.

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That's a good one, Buddy.

X-Men: Apocalypse 8/10. TMNT: Out of the Shadows 9/10. RIP Doris Roberts. You were wonderful in ELR.

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Yep. A good one. I caught 3(possibly) in one line from Rebecca in Is There a Doctor in the Howe.

Frasier admits always being attracted to Rebecca. She says she did think his butt was cute in some pants he was wearing, but then said that ever since she's known him, he's been married, so she never took time to notice if he was attractive.

1st, Frasier was only living with Lilith when she met him. And she was the one that gave Lilith a bridal shower. So Frasier has not always been married. A better line would be "Ever since i've known you, you've been with Lilith."

2nd Rebecca seemed to show upon her 2nd meeting with Frasier that she didn't find him the least attractive. Lilith and Rebecca play the joke on Frasier. Beck says "How will I live without your passionate kisses" in patronizing fashion. When Frasier asks if she was really kidding, she nods and her face says it all.
http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/silverfang2/29185537/872526/872526_1000.png
So seems she did notice him, and wasn't impressed with what she saw. Though he still became one of her best friends.

3rd, her line seems to imply that she doesn't bother taking notice when men are married. She crushed on Evan Drake for years, regardless of him being married. Now this one, I can let slide. Because maybe she allowed herself interest because he was heading toward divorce. She tells Sam that Evan isn't happily married.

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When Diane had to get married, Norm offered to do it as he was an ordained minister.

When Kelly and Woody were to get married but the minister was drunk, they were freaking out that they couldn't get married - apparently Norm forgot he was an ordained minister.

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It expired, Just. Lol.

X-Men: Apocalypse 8/10. TMNT: Out of the Shadows 9/10. RIP Doris Roberts. You were wonderful in ELR.

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That's another good one.

Mentioned it in another thread. This can be explained away, and maybe it was and I missed it.

But Carla has 8 kids. Said multiple times. However, when Nick comes back, Carla tells him to identify 3 of his own kids out of the 10 she was showing him. Now could have been other young relatives in the mix, but seems weird they'd just throw 2 extra kids in there. Rather than having Nick identify 3 out of her usual 8 kids.

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She wanted to confuse him even more. Lol.

X-Men: Apocalypse 8/10. TMNT: Out of the Shadows 9/10. RIP Doris Roberts. You were wonderful in ELR.

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I just saw one I think. Re-watching the series and in season 4, Cliff tried to recruit Norm to help him paint his house. Norm said he hates painting and never even finished painting his own house. From memory, when cheers originally aired, I remember in later seasons Norm switched professions and became a painter. I vaguely remember an episode with Norm painting a house (maybe Evan Drake’s) and Rebecca being there.

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Everyone hates their jobs. Just because he later became a painter doesn't mean he likes to paint, per se.

X-Men: Apocalypse 8/10. TMNT: Out of the Shadows 9/10. RIP Doris Roberts. You were wonderful in ELR.

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Once I get to the later season, whichever it was, I’ll know for sure if he switched professions because he liked it. I vaguely remember him saying that he always liked to paint when asked why the career change. Please don’t quote me on that yet. I will say that in the season 4 episode I saw, he was pretty adamant about hating to paint.

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Get back to us, Jay.

X-Men: Apocalypse 8/10. TMNT: Out of the Shadows 9/10. RIP Doris Roberts. You were wonderful in ELR.

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He told Rebecca in season 6 in the office he likes to paint. You're right it was inconsistent.

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Thank you (buddyboy28). I haven’t got to season six yet (I put the show on the back burner for the time being) so I appreciate your confirmation.

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There are a few that I picked up. Some can be explained away.

Here's one that stands out to me: in the episode where Frasier finds out that Lilith cheated on him, it's mentioned multiple times that they had been married for seven years. Yet seven years prior to that point, they weren't married. They had only been on one date, and they didn't even begin a relationship until a year after that point.

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Maybe the years aren't what the were, when the episode came out.

X-Men: Apocalypse 8/10. TMNT: Out of the Shadows 9/10. RIP Doris Roberts. You were wonderful in ELR.

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You have a Cheers excuse for everything. Please explain the Righteous Brothers blunder of, "Please Mr. Postman" as requested above.

You once claimed that you had forgotten more about Cheers than I'll ever know. If you're sooooooo knowledgeable about Cheers, can you tell me the four times that, "You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling", is actually heard in a Cheer's episode. One should be a snap because both Bill Medley and Bobby Hatfield made guest appearances on the show, but only one of them sang that song to Rebecca.

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I would love to see the message that an administrator deleted. I'm assuming it was some insulting message with vulgar words from CJH himself. I've always wondered what it would be like to live in a fantasy world in which I don't have a care in the world because of a delusion that everybody thinks I'm perfect.

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It was the correct answer, that I'm not posting again. I don't have that stuff on automatic recall anymore.

X-Men: Apocalypse 8/10. TMNT: Out of the Shadows 9/10. RIP Doris Roberts. You were wonderful in ELR.

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by cjh8504 (Thu Jul 7 2016 22:15:15)
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It was the correct answer, that I'm not posting again. I don't have that stuff on automatic recall anymore.
You're blowing smoke. I, for one, do not believe that an administrator would delete a correct answer to my question.

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Well, I might've thrown a few colorful comments in there as well, which may have caused the deletion.

X-Men: Apocalypse 8/10. TMNT: Out of the Shadows 9/10. RIP Doris Roberts. You were wonderful in ELR.

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That's not true at all. You don't even like Cheers. What the heck are you doing here, anyway? Being a jerk is what.

X-Men: Apocalypse 8/10. TMNT: Out of the Shadows 9/10. RIP Doris Roberts. You were wonderful in ELR.

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You didn't say you like it either, stalker. You haven't added one Cheers related thing here. Not ONE post where you say you prefer the Diane years over the Rebecca years, or Coach to Woody, or Cheers is extremely underrated nowadays. NOTHING Cheers related. So, tell me. Why are you here again? To be a jerk to me? Gotcha!

X-Men: Apocalypse 8/10. TMNT: Out of the Shadows 9/10. RIP Doris Roberts. You were wonderful in ELR.

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Now let's discuss. Number 3 in particular. EXTREMELY underrated. A few years back on here it used to have a robust, but still far too low, rating of 8.3. Now it has a paltry 7.8. That's disgusting. What the heck happened? Inferior shows like Friends and Seinfeld have much higher ratings. It's totally underrated these days, Cheers is.

X-Men: Apocalypse 8/10. TMNT: Out of the Shadows 9/10. RIP Doris Roberts. You were wonderful in ELR.

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True. But, what did you give Cheers, or what would you give Cheers on here?

X-Men: Apocalypse 8/10. TMNT: Out of the Shadows 9/10. RIP Doris Roberts. You were wonderful in ELR.

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And that makes me vomit. Why ISN'T on as much as Seinfeld or Friends?

X-Men: Apocalypse 8/10. TMNT: Out of the Shadows 9/10. RIP Doris Roberts. You were wonderful in ELR.

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by cjh8504 (Thu Jul 14 2016 15:34:38)
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And that makes me vomit. Why ISN'T on as much as Seinfeld or Friends?
You already have the DVDs, so you can skip the commercials. Why do you care how often Cheers is on TV? You really are a cry baby.

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That's not the point, Biz. It's a far better show than either of those, and it doesn't get credit anymore, because no one can watch Cheers 24/7 like they can Friends or Seinfeld, because it's hardly on tv.

X-Men: Apocalypse 8/10. TMNT: Out of the Shadows 9/10. RIP Doris Roberts. You were wonderful in ELR.

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Well, we all have our priorities. Lol.

X-Men: Apocalypse 8/10. TMNT: Out of the Shadows 9/10. RIP Doris Roberts. You were wonderful in ELR.

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Cliff goes blind when he commits to a girl in season 8, all the way back to high school but he was fine with Carla's sister in season 2.

In the later seasons the characters seem to treat Cliff like he's never been with a woman but according to the earlier seasons he has.

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He's an exaggerator. Who knows what to believe when it comes to Cliffie.

RIP Gene Wilder. One of the funniest people of all time. RIP Matt Roberts. You were great.

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The one inconsistency that I really hate is Frasier's sudden portrayal as some sort of stalker in the 11th season.

Lilith tells the bar how he read her mail, observed her sitting in his car across the street, calling her and being silent when she answered the phone and stuff like that. Frasier then says in a voice, which I would describe as menacing, psychopathic, that he got what he wanted. That sudden character change is so not the Frasier of all other seasons. When we first meet Frasier he's a little stiff but humorous, kind of like Niles is when we first meet him in season one of Frasier. But their both being "english" in their appearance and they're rather not comfortable around women; they're not dangerous sickos who should be reported to the police.

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