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I'm high as fuck right now, but bear with me...


I'm currently watching Raiders for the 1,000th time, and Indy's just now entering the cave with Alfred Molina in the opening sequence. As he walks in, he scrapes some dirt into a bag so that, once inside, he can use it to offset the weight of the idol on its booby-trapped pedestal. You all know the scene. Anyway, the moment always struck me as odd, because I used to wonder how Indy knew to expect that specific type of booby trap inside the temple. But then I would get swept up in the adventure and just chalk it up to lazy writing. ANYWAY, it finally occurred to me that Indy has quite likely already been on countless adventures in search of the idol (or artifacts like it), and has had to learn the hard way to expect booby-traps of this nature. Basically, he's learning from past mistakes, which I suppose he gets another chance to do later on with Marion. Maybe this all seemed obvious to you, but the thought had simply never occurred to me.

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Good observation.

He's probably assuming because this tact worked in the past maybe it will work here as well. There are no guarantees it will work but he figures he might as well bring it along just in case.

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I know this is nitpicking, but the thing that always bothered me about that scene is how he "adjusted" the weight of the sand bag downward before attempting to swap the bag for the idol, which was presumably solid gold.

That idol would weigh many times more than the small amount of sand he used. It couldn't be hollow because the Mayans didn't have casting technology and even if it was gold over a wood sculpture, it still would be heavier.

No wonder the damned trap was tripped!!! There's no doubt his degree was in history and not engineering.

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Not Indy’s degree. Screenwriter Lawrence Kasdan’s degree. Kasdan once said that “being a writer is like having to do homework for the rest of your life.” Appstently little Larry played hooky the day he wrote that scene. He could have had Indy add sand to the bag, and get the same result in a more plausible way. I’ve always thought that Kasdan is a putz.

PS Strictly speaking, Indy’s doctorate was in archeology.

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I agree with almost everything you say, except the bit about the Mayans not having casting technology. They did, but they had not perfected it by a long shot. But if that figurine was solid gold, it would have had to have been cast, as nuggets that size are pretty much unheard of. A gold-plated wooden statue, however, would not have been very heavy. Sure, pure gold is very heavy, but Meso-American gold was full of impurities which would have made it lighter. And even pure gold plating doesn't add a significant amount of weight to such a small object, as the layer would be very thin.

More importantly, though, once the idol has been pilfered in such a manner, it would lose all value from an archaeological perspective. The value of archaeological artefacts lie entirely in their contexts, not in the materials in which they are constructed.

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Brilliant observation, Black Waffle.

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I think you have it wrong. Probably because you was high:-)
Indy and these other treasure hunters are after this specific ovido relic.
I can guarantee you, like he tells Marcus back in the museum, that he had a very clear idea of what he was after, its estimated size etc.
So, when he grabs the sand he's preparring to face what I would consider a typical ovido antitheft trap, that he researched and expected to face.
It's not so much about previous mistakes, it's just about him doing properly his prep job.

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This. Seems pretty obvious to me.

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Given that he makes mistakes even on this adventure, it is not unreasonable to assume that he has made mistakes on past adventures as well - learning from them. I don't think there's be any literature on Ovido photo-sensitive traps, for example, even in the Indy-universe.

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