Has This Film Aged Well?


Im thinking of buying this movie,
it's a long time since I've seen and
I know you can get it on Blu Ray.
I was wondering if the movie had
aged well and is worth buying?

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Depends. That's kind of a general question, and whether something has aged, or aged well, is a matter of opinion. There's no denying this movie was made in the 80's, the citizens of New York mostly look like a bunch of 80's punk rockers, the music is a classic John Carpenter 80's synth score, and it takes place in the "future" of 1997. That's about it though, the film still holds up. Snake is a timeless character, there's nothing dated about him or the rest of the script. They're not playing 80's music or spouting 80's catchphrases, and it lacks the cheese factor so many 80's movies have. It's just a straight-forward action/sci-fi movie. If somebody does think it's dated, I think they're just incapable of watching films older than they are.

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it lacks the cheese factor so many 80's movies have


No it doesn't. It's full of cheese.

I.e:

- Snake twice tells the cop to "call me Snake."

- The entire Duke character is a walking cliche of the black pimp stereotype from the 1970's.

- The sumo wrestler type guy is super cartoony; his ridiculous beard makes him look like he belongs in a Keystone Cop film from the 1910's.

etc.

To answer the OP's question, no, this film hasn't aged well at all. It's very clearly representing the 1980's of the past even though it is allegedly supposed to be representing the future. In 2016 this film is 100% unbelievable as a representation of the future.

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In 2016 this film is 100% unbelievable as a representation of the future.
that really has no bearing on how good the film is or how well it's aged. Fiction doesn't have to be believable or accurate to be entertaining.

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that really has no bearing on how good the film is or how well it's aged


Sure it does. In this film, Carpenter attempted to tell us what the future would be like.

Reality, however, has proved all of his predictions to be dead wrong.

Therefore, this film has aged terribly.

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Only if you're going into it with the exception that a filmmaker's "prediction" about what the future will be like will be accurate. I don't do that. Filmmaker's aren't prophets so why should I expect them to be prophetic? When a filmmaker makes a futuristic film they're just presenting one fictional idea of what a possible future MIGHT be like, it's not a claim that the future will actually turn out that way and in my opinion it's mistaken to read it that way.

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Sure it does.


No, it doesn't. You don't get that Carpenter went into this film as a satire. It was never meant to be a serious minded film to begin with.

Therefore, it's aged fine.

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The film wasn't supposed to be a serious study of the future. Turning Manhattan island into a prison didn't make any sense even in the early 80's. New York crime rates at the time probably gave bases to the idea and Carpenter just exaggerated the reality.

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By your logic, the novel 1984 has aged badly—although IT IS A CLASSIC.

Literal minds cannot appreciate art.

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You meant “e.g.” which is “for example.”

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I own the Blu Ray and think it looks great. Put it this way, it's aged much better than Escape From LA.

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Your opinion on the PQ of the Blu Ray please. As some people were not happy:
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Escape-from-New-York-Blu-ray/109611/#UserReviews

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Hell yeah! Great flick! Go get it!

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I enjoy this movie as much now as I did when I saw it when it came out.

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In ancillary ways yes it has aged.

The film takes place in the distant future of 1997, where the US and Soviet Union are in conflict.
Technology such as cell phones and satellite imagery seem lacking or very dated for 1997.
I am not sure that a film made today would put such a heavy focus on the old World Trade Centre, even though they existed in 1997.
The computers look like something from the set of Star Trek.
The fashion and soundtrack are both VERY much a product of their time.


However, the overarching story and characters have all held up well.

Snake Plissken is a timeless character played brilliantly by Russell.
The fears of a police state and police brutality are very real, even more so today.
Leaders who send people off to die but only offer platitudes to them and their families.
The basic story is still engaging and exciting.
The supporting cast is also great, and hold up well.
The sets actually look good. Like if NY had been ruined and turned in to a jail in 1981, it would look like that.



This may go slightly off your original question, but I'd get it if only because it comes from a time when Hollywood was willing to do more than reboots and "re-imaginings." Today anything worth watching is on HBO or some other premium TV channel, but in the 80's Hollywood was were groundbreaking entertainment and stories were still happening.

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Apart from the simple animations, yes, I would say so. Everything is very believable.

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I would say no. I love the movie but it is very clunky. The effects look massively dated.

Not saying this is a bad thing, I love The Terminator partly for the same reason. But compared to say... Predator, a 1987 movie that holds up today 100%. Even the music and the predator's camouflage effects look great still.

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All movies are inevitably and ineluctably products of their time. (e.g. you can't get around the fact that almost twenty years on from the timeline of the movie, Manhattan is still not a federal prison)

Some are often only viable as entertainment in the time that they were produced.

Escape From New York , like all Carpenter movies, certainly does not fall into that category.

It would be hard to imagine a director whose style and craft demonstrates defies the effect of age, especially considering the modest budgets he had to deal with throughout the vast majority of his career.



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" (e.g. you can't get around the fact that almost twenty years on from the timeline of the movie, Manhattan is still not a federal prison)"

sure you can , you just mentally adjust the dates mentioned so they are in the future again

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