J.D. La Rue a pervert.

Ha! I always thought he was all talk and no action. Not a bad dude, deep down. Hilarious, really.

He blatantly has a micro-penis and is trying to compensate by attempting to seduce every woman in sight.

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Duty Now For The Future

How old are you Mark? I'm not being facetious - it's a genuine question, because I think this is a generational thing.

Most young people now would be appalled by the "standards" of the Seventies. Robert Plant, and many others, regularly wrote songs about under age girls - it seems incredible now but it was the norm back then.

"From the window of your rented limousine, I saw your pretty blue eyes
One day soon you're gonna reach sixteen, Painted lady in the city of lies...

Lips like cherries and the brow of a queen, Come on, flash it in my eyes
Said you dug me since you were thirteen,Then you giggle as you heave and sigh".

(From Sick Again by Led Zeppelin)

Nobody batted an eyelid! In fact, Plant was referred to as "a God"!


It was perfectly normal to enthuse about "schoolgirls" - in fact, there's a whole fetish industry for it.

Here in the UK, retrospective justice is catching up on a lot of elderly men, former DJs and the like, who had relationships with underage girls back in the Seventies, and clips of them "acting seedy" on TV shows are produced as evidence. However, that behaviour was viewed as acceptable then - flirting onscreen with obviously young girls, often leading to a dressing room tryst.

So as recently as the early to mid Eighties, there would have been nothing unsual about JD's behaviour. Similarly the upstanding Phil Esterhaus - see the other thread about his relationship with (and near marriage to!)a high school student!




Awight we're The Daamned we're a punk baand and this is called Carn't Be Appy T'day!

In season 3, LaRue was actually sleeping with a teenager (Ally Sheedy). After his fellow officers warn him he's playing with fire, he decides to break it off, worried how she'll take it. She takes it fine; he's nothing special to her.

I agree, he has an obnoxious exterior but shows great love for and loyalty to Washington - when Sal almost gets him killed for instance, JD actually wasn't talking to Neal at the time (because of Neal's perceived disloyalty in partnering up with Sal) but immediately leapt to his defence when Sal put him in harm's way.

There's a poignancy as well to the fact that Kiel Martin died so young, of lung cancer - I can't not think of that every time I seem him pulling on a smoke in the show.





Awight we're The Daamned we're a punk baand and this is called Carn't Be Appy T'day!

That's true, but I think the strength of that storyline was the way JD turned himself around - even an alcoholic can have a strong moral compass and I believe the JD character did.

Belker was very morally upright and I don't believe ever took a misstep in the whole series - his standards and morals cannot be questioned. But he could be a bit of an overbearing prig! Looking down on people who displayed moral weakness (eg his attitude to the equally bereft Renko when the Sarge died - as Bobby Hill said, "What is this, mama loves me best?")

Belker was in the fortunate position of always being left to do his own thing (he could be trusted with such freedom) but he showed an impatience with people not in such an exalted role.



Awight we're The Daamned we're a punk baand and this is called Carn't Be Appy T'day!

Almost everyone teams up against him when he's thinking about sleeping with a high school girl who's underage. Clearly the officers do have limits.

"Forget reality, give me a picture"-Remington Steele

That was totally his character, obviously. Depending on who you are, I guess, it came down to how well Kiel Martin conveyed the behavior, both lecherous behavior and alcoholism.

I've always remembered he hit on Joyce Davenport (Veronica Hamel) and he was siting on the corner of a desk with his legs open and she poured a cup of coffee all over his groin.

An episode of the English sitcom, Thin Blue Line, with Rowan Atkinson, there was a bit with a minor supporting detective, D.C. Kray, played by Kevin Allen, in which college students were dressed up as monkeys and apes to accept donations for tuition and Kray told one, a female, obviously, to come up to his place later on and get a banana, then gave a slimy laugh.

But truly the best example must be Laverne trying to teach Squiggy how to drive to get his license and asked him what does he do when he comes up behind a school bus and Squiggy responded with, "Hey! Chickie baby!"

Laverne scolded him for his behavior.

It's not moralistic behavior, but clearly still exists, and obviously today.