MovieChat Forums > Raise the Titanic (1980) Discussion > Hello...It is a Movie...Fiction, you kno...

Hello...It is a Movie...Fiction, you know!!

posted 19 years ago by gravitybear2002
17 replies | jump to latest

First off, I need to say that I am a big Cussler fan. I enjoy reading his books for their sense of adventure. All of these history buffs are driving me friggin' nuts. What did you know about the Titanic back in 1976 or 1980 for that matter. It doesn't really matter, it is a movie and all of these monkeys who keep complaining about the feasibility of actually raising the Titanic need to lighten up. So what if it broke into two pieces, did any of you know for a fact in 1976,that it was certain that it broke into two pieces? Two pieces doesn't work for the book, or the movie, so they went with the one piece theory. It wasn't a conspiracy or a plot against humanity, it was a fictional movie.

If you want to complain, complain about what the Director and writers did to Cussler's book. Their distortion caused Cussler to not want to make another movie for 25 years. Some of you will say,"Good." I enjoyed Sahara for what it was, a movie. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find a copy of RTT. I want to see it, just for nostalgia's sake.

[–] 19 years ago

[deleted]

[–] freefall79 19 years ago

everyone slags it off epsically after the discovery in 1985 ad the movie in 1997 but beck then no one even knew where it was, it sunk in the dark and film were just gessing the remains of the ship. for that i think it's a nice piece of light entertainment...but the film is really *beep* the best part of it is the raising of the ship

Thunderbirds Aren't Slow

[–] jcwantsu 19 years ago

Well, I think it is a great idea to raise the Titanic, and I think they should really try and do it! (Just my idea)
I mean, even if it does crumble up and break apart on the way up, SO WHAT?! It will eventually do that anyway, won't it???

[–] boutetr 19 years ago

Arthur C Clarke wrote a book called "Ghosts of the Grand Banks" that you might find interesting. It's about raising the 2 sections in time for the 100th anniversary of the sinking. He came up with 2 different methods for the bow and stern sections that might actually work. I've always been intriqued about the possibility of raising her but really, when you think about it, why waste the money attempting it? Some things are best left alone and I believe this is the case here.

[–] Marching_Xylophonist 19 years ago

i agree with boutetr some things are better left alone. So what if we could raise the titanic? what would we do with it? most probably strip it to pieces and send it all over the world and use it to make money. Leaving it at the bottom, gives us the opportunity to explore it but still have some mystery. Plus the ship, in my opinion will stay better preserved if we don't try to move it. Simply because it isn't very structurally sound anymore and could collapse within the next decade. however if they would try to raise it. It would most probably collapse on the journey up. How's that to preserve history? not a very good way to honor the 1500 people lost. As i said, i say we just keep it down there.

[–] dasbismarck 19 years ago

"Well, I think it is a great idea to raise the Titanic...
I mean, even if it does crumble up and break apart on the way up, SO WHAT?! It will eventually do that anyway, won't it???"

Yes, great suggestion. Spend almost 3 billion dollars just to "crumble up a ship" for no good reason other than "it will eventally do that that anyway".

Forget trying to find a cure for cancer or solving the energy crisis, science needs to apply all its money, mathemeticians, engineers, and scientists to randomly crumble a ship for no useful reason at all.

I swear I lose IQ points just from reading the messages on this site.

[–] chewbacca20000-1 19 years ago

well you tell him mate.

[–] joshua_craven 19 years ago

"Forget trying to find a cure for cancer or solving the
energy crisis, science needs to apply all its money,
mathemeticians, engineers, and scientists to randomly
crumble a ship for no useful reason at all.

I swear I lose IQ points just from reading the messages
on this site."

Who do you think would pay for this? The American Cancer Society? Any raising attempts would be financed by private, wealthy profiteers who would see the venture as an investment. They aren't giving that money to charity.

Also, I seriously doubt the scientists working to cure cancer or solve the energy crisis would be the ones hired for such a venture. I don't think the fields of "curing cancer" and "deep ocean salvage" overlap very much. I think you might ought to cling to your IQ points pretty tightly and stop insulting others when your own post isn't any more well thought out.

I would love to see it raised, and I think it could be done.

[–] dasbismarck 18 years ago

Maybe you should read my post better before jumping on the pseudo-intellectuial soapbox, I never said "raising it would be a bad idea" I said the logic that "its going to crumble anyway" was a stupid justification to risking the time and effort of raising it.

And you are wrong, it can't be done. Its a physics impossibility. Do some more research as to the condition of the wreck and what it would take to raise something that size. Its only held together by the colonies of "rusticles" and even disturbing the water around it is causing the wreck to collapse. Ballard went down to it recently to survey the damage and was heartbroken at how destroyed its become in the last five years.
And its so deeply sunk into the clay that its impossible to break free of the suction. Any attempt to dig it up will rip the bottom out from under it.

Another brilliant quote from you:
"I don't think the fields of "curing cancer" and "deep ocean salvage" overlap very much"

Again, do some more research before acting like such a know-it-all, because they overlap MUCH more than you think, much of the research into alternative medications for cancer treatment is going towards deep sea research of bacterial colonies, the EXACT same ones that form the rusticles on the Titanic, or researching the geological deposits that form the "Lost City" mineral towers for possible medications used to treat cancer, HIV, and a host of other diseases.

[–] joshua_craven 18 years ago

lol, you tickle me

[–] chewbacca20000-1 18 years ago

ok about just raise the bow if it could be done????????????
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[–] seatart-2 18 years ago

"Who do you think would pay for this? The American Cancer Society? Any raising attempts would be financed by private, wealthy profiteers who would see the venture as an investment. They aren't giving that money to charity."

I can't think of a worse possible outcome than that a group of men, with more money than brains, destroy a graveyard for more profit.

Titanic may lie miles below the surface but men, women and children died horrible deaths, and like other graveyards, it should be revered and honored.

It was not Titanic's destiny to arrive in New York. We can't bring up what remains and pretend it's ok now. The sea will absorb it all eventually and there will be no sign she ever rested there. No need to hurry that along.

[–] chewbacca20000-1 18 years ago

bleh

[–] 18 years ago

[deleted]

[–] jonmap1976 18 years ago

i finally just saw this movie i have read the book many times and can i just say how badly they butchered a good book. they skipped so many important parts of the book that helped to make the story make more sense, and would have made it more action packed. they didn't get the characters right and even left some of the most important characters out(like Al). all in all very disappointing. after saying all that i do hope that they remake it, with technology today they could make it look pretty cool, and they could do a way better job with the story. shara (the recent dirk pitt adaptation) wasn't the best, but was still better than this movie,

[–] wallacesawyer 14 years ago

Now-a-days you could call this a simply "what if" movie like the alternet 1985 America in WATCHMEN.

For DEMONIC TOYS and updates on Full Moon Films:
www.freewebs.com/demonictoys/

[–] TheGuyWithTheFeet 14 years ago

Or Fatherland...alt. world if Germany had won WWII.