I don't understand why it has such a low rating I thought it was a good production.Good cast Good story Good score by John Barry.I would have thought it was at least a Six out of Ten.I thought it was better than Ice Station Zebra a similar movie. Imagine if this got the James Cameron treatment, Would be awesome.He is fascinated by the Titanic.
It's not inaccurate. It reflects the theories at the time.
It's got such a low rating for the same reasons that it got bad reviews and bad box office in 1980. It's just not a good movie. It's fun and has good special effects. But the only redeeming quality about the film is that it's got good special effects.
That's why the rating is so low. Because it's silly, poorly cast, poorly scripted and poorly directed. It's got one good scene and that's the ship breaking the water.
I think it's actually better than Sahara which was just a stupid run of the mill action movie.Jason Robards was excellent and I prefered Richard Jordan to Mathew Mc Conaughy as Dirk Pitt.I think it's an underrated movie.
Well you have obviously read the novels.Maybe I need to check them out.All I'm saying is for someone who hasn't read the novels it was an enjoyable movie.The music score was awesome and the underwater scenes where great.I thought it was very atmospheric and I think atmosphere is important.How would you have compared it to Ice Station Zebra ?
Does a film have to have "good scenes" to merit your approval? Can't the story itself be worthy of something in it's own right? Is there a "good scene" in "On Golden Pond"?
Does a film have to have "good scenes" to merit your approval?
What does that mean? I'm on this board, therefore I like the film. But liking the film and the film being good are two totally different things. You can like a film and know it's bad. You can like a film and think it's good. You can dislike a film but acknowledge that it's a well-made (i.e. good) film.
I never said anything about "good scenes" being a requirement. What I said...if you'd take the time to read carefully...was:
That's why the rating is so low. Because it's silly, poorly cast, poorly scripted and poorly directed. It's got one good scene and that's the ship breaking the water.
A film doesn't have to have "good scenes". And this has nothing to do with "my approval". Find me the link to a credible reviewer at a major publication that gave this film a good review...and I'll eat crow.
But, as I said. It's silly, poorly cast, poorly scripted and poorly directed. The positives that this film has are:
- It involves the Titanic, which is always adds some romanticism. - It has amazingly good special effects. Some of the effects are among the best in movie history. (Unfortunately, they're surrounded by crap). - It has a story that any wannabe adventurer and Titanic nerd finds fascinating.
Can't the story itself be worthy of something in it's own right
There's more to a film than the story. If the story is poorly executed. It's a poor film.
Why are you bringing up films that have nothing to do with Raise the Titanic? You're bringing up Sy Fi films, which have a completely different audience. They're made-for-tv schlock. Cameron's Titanic? How does that really compare? It doesn't.
Further, why are you taking this so personally? If you like it, like it. Why does it matter what anyone else thinks?
I think you may not be giving it a fair shot, that's all. I was comparing acting quality. You want bad acting, RAISE is not the best place to find it "by comparison". Cameron's Titanic was terribly OVERacted in my eyes. I'm talking acting in general here since you pointed out the "Bad" acting on RAISE, so I'm contributing some other options to show that maybe it isn't as bad as you suggest. Everyone on here takes something personally when the opinions of others don't match their own. It's human nature.
No it's not human nature. Not taking something personally just because someone has a differing opinion is called maturity. Expecting everyone to have the same opinion as you is childish and stupid.
I never said that I disliked RTT and I don't see the need to give it a fair shot. I watch the movie a lot and enjoy it. I saw it when it initially came out on VHS in the early 80s and have liked it ever since. But it's still poorly acted, scripted, directed and cast.
People enjoy films for different reasons. Some people can only stomach good films. I enjoy all types for different reasons...embracing both their good points and their awfulness at the same time. On my DVD shelf, you'll find movies of varying quality that I enjoy. Everything from Gone With the Wind and Lawrence of Arabia on down to Raise the Titanic, Beyond the Poseidon Adventure and Valley of the Dolls. And I relish every moment of every single one of them.
I've got the ability to look at a film with a critical eye. That means that I can see a film's good points and admit (and choose to accept or not accept) it's bad points. This is a skill that you obviously lack.
I've detailed what I like and dislike about RTT. Accept it or don't. I offer no apologies and you've done nothing to make a case for why your opinion is what it is. You've just disagreed with me and been kind of insulting.
And that's all I have to say about it. So, you can just put that "wormy on the hooky".
I agree. People have their standards as to what they find acceptable in the acting and casting department and that can't be helped. But overall the storyline itself is quite interesting. Why this movie didn't take off in 1980 is beyond me. I don't know what the reviews were, but I'm sure people back then were just like today's public and didn't pay much attention to reviews, preferring to make their own judgement.
I saw Raise the Titanic Aug. 1, 1980 (opening day), despite one of my local papers running a review under the headline "That Sinking Feeling," and I remember it being flat and dull. An adaptation doesn't have to have everything from its source material in it, but, as I recall, took almost all the interesting parts of the novel out:
1. The CIA intentionally leaking the location of the Titanic to the Soviets in order to insert a mole as the head of the KGB
2. Changing the marital status of Anne Archer's and David Shelby's characters
3. Not having David Shelby's character suffer a breakdown at the end
4. Not having Anne Archer's character go on the expedition and embracing her forced striptese
Even the comic strip version that ran in my other local paper (which I read before reading the novel) was livelier than the movie.