People like Beth


How do you think it'll work out if Beth decides to open up more even with how she felt throughout the movie. She knows she loved Buck more than she does Conrad, she refused to show it even until the end. We as audience are used to see this as bad behavior and it deserves the hate. But it's understandable that she tries to hide her true feeling because she knows it's wrong.

Now how would it plays out in different scenario if she cares, expressing her honesty, her true feeling of how maybe deep down she felt that it would benefit her more if it was Conrad instead of Buck. Would that be even more devastating to Conrad? She could act more loving and be a better mother in the future, but that doesn't change the fact that in all honesty that's her personality. Could people like that change?

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Either way it is heartbreaking. I am not sure how it would have played out since Conrad already knew how Beth felt. It might be a relief for him hearing the truth. All of those buried emotions are sometimes worse, because they are so emotionally exhausting. They say the truth will set you free, so maybe things would have improved after some time.

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I guess not everyone is born perfect. Physically or mentally.

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I think that's one truth that would not set anyone free. I think if she were to express that to Conrad it would only serve as an added impediment to their chance at a loving relationship. Conrad would always think that he is being loved by default and that if Buck were still alive she wouldn't give him the time of day. And he might be right.

They showed one scene in the beginning of the movie where Beth and Conrad tried to have a pleasant conversation with each other. Beth was wearing a brown suede jacket and she went outside to advise Conrad to put on a coat (or sweater) if he was going to relax on the patio furniture at that time of year. The two ended up having an awkward conversation mainly because they weren't taking the time to wait and listen to the other person or remember what the other just said. I always thought that the effort was there and that with practice they would end up not only loving but liking each other. They just needed practice. Sadly, with Beth leaving for Houston at the end of the movie, they may never get that chance.

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@ BaconYouth- Can people like that change? The answer is NO. Beth is a classic NARCISSIST. You see this time and time again in the movie and she even answers Donald Sutherland when he asks her-can't you see how see how things in any other way other than how it affects YOU? and she says NO, I can't. And again in the scene where she is badgering him to take them all to London for Christmas-she even says when asked, why do they need to go? She answers first by saying, "Because I wanna get away"-like HELLO??? She can't see how broken her son is??? She will never change-and I think part of Conrad's struggle is one, learning to accept this and two, realizing that she will never love him like he needs to be loved.

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I don't think that Beth is the worst type of narcissist. She may have the ability to change if she begins to miss her family. I think Calvin telling her he doesn't love her anymore and asking her to leave may be the final push for her to realize that she does need help.

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I knew throughout my childhood that my parents preferred my younger brother to me, and that after he died they would rather it had been me, instead. Once I was the default son, they turned some of the warmth my way, but the truth was always in the background. They never completely got over feeling the way they did, and I never completely got over the resentment. Favoritism must be nearly impossible for a parent to avoid. I'm glad I never had kids.

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That sounds awful. I'm sorry for the loss of your brother, and for how your parents treated/mistreated you. You have my empathy.

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Like you commented, it is a cold hard fact that favouritism is impossible to avoid. It’s about personality and parents do need be very careful, but it will still rear its biased head. That is just human dynamic and the nature of the beast.

What parents do need acknowledge, is that their children are only a reflection of themselves.

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