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In 2011 this is a complete waste of time. Don't bother with TMC.


I watched this as a kid and liked it 30+ years ago. But even then, the space F/X were terrible. I just watched the first installment (The Expeditions) today on DIRECTV ON DEMAND. Oh my GOD!! It aged worse then almost anything I've ever seen. Space 1999 would give this a run for it's money, and in some respects, would win.

The three 2 hour episodes seem like 3 separate Twilight Zone scripts that were expanded from 20 to 120 minutes and then loosely tied together by setting them on "Mars" and each having appearances Rock Hudson. It actually has the feel of forcing pieces from 3 different jigsaw puzzles together and calling it 'one puzzle'. Each of the three parts are padded and stretched for no other apparent purpose than to make the running time longer. And the Twilight Zone feel is no coincidence, as the screenplay was penned by noted TZ writer Richard Matheson. But here, it just doesn't work.

The F/X - bad in it's own era. UNACCEPTABLE by any standard today. Star Trek TOS blows it away. The only example of worse F/X would be the giant carrot episode of Lost in Space.

Story - may work as a short story, but as a 3 part 360 minute mini-series, it's long and boring. Dumb story lines that actually have little to do with anything 'Martian' will wear down the patience of nearly any viewer.

Dialogue - unbelievably cheesy.

Acting - amateurish and wooden.

Sets - A step above Land of the Lost.

For those who think this should be remade - think again. It would require a massive overhaul. Not even the title could remain, as it's painfully obvious Mars isn't a single bit (nor could it be) like anything depicted in either the TV or book version. Better to come up with something completely different than trying to rework The Martian Chronicles.

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You have to remember the book was written long before we landed Viking on the surface of Mars and so Ray Bradbury couldn't base it on what we now know about the planet. Also it (the book) isn't a novel, but a collection of short stories. So they didn't have an actual spine to the story like an actual novel would have provided. The movie I Robot had a similar genesis in that the character of the police detective and the events he's involved in weren't part of Issac Asimov's collection of stories either. The filmmakers had to build a spine for both storylines. In any case I understand you're in good company. From what I understand Ray Bradbury didn't like the finished product either.

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I understand Bradbury penned this long before space travel. My comments at the end are in regards to any remake that would be done currently. Even back in the late 70's we could conjecture about possible life on Mars. The story simply can't be told today - at least not with the setting being Mars.

Also, you are correct about the original stories not being a single novel. But that's no excuse for how disjointed this TV adaption was. The sad thing is, the potential for MARTIAN CHRONICLES was there. It fell flat when I originally watched it on NBC 30+ years ago when I was young. Today it's just an embarrassment. And it can't even be enjoyed as a fun "bad" production like an Ed Wood film (so bad it's funny) because it's just so doggone dull. IMO.

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We must be close in age. This was one of the first SciFi projects I was bummed about back then. I thought the visuals were on par with SPACE 1999, and in some cases, worse. That's hard to believe.

Even so, I still remember being impacted by the scene where Earth 'died'. I imagined what it would be like to be on another planet, knowing there was no more "home" to go to, and that everything, people and culture, was gone.

If this was reimaged, I'd probably see it. But whoever does it has their work cut out for themselves. Not that it would be tough to top this mini-series version, but rather I think adapting this into a feasible story is going to be a tough task in general. I hope whoever tries meets this challenge.

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I loved it as a kid and I still love it today. Perhaps the difference is that I still watch it in context and don't hold it up to the impossible standards of more recent productions. Plus the story, itself based on a loose collection of short stories from the 1940s never was connected in any way to the real Mars. It taps into the fantasy image of Mars, the one Carl Sagan once described as an empty canvas into which people poured their hopes and dreams. The Martian Chronicles is allegory for Earth-based issues of the day, like colonisation, war, cultural imperialism, religion, and so on. All of those messages are there when you watch it today. Go looking for sci-fi and the 'real' Mars, even back in 1979 when it was first broadcast, and you're looking in the wrong place. Mars was always just a backdrop for Bradbury's social commentary.

All of which is why I do however completely agree with you that it shouldn't be remade. It's a product of the social attitudes of another time and place which people wouldn't understand today. Plus, we know too much about Mars now to accept the old 'John Carter'-type fantasy. As you say, it would have to be changed beyond all recognition and what would be the point? I also say it's far better to move on. Supposedly there was meant to be an adaptation of Kim Stanley-Robinson's 'Red Mars', but I don't know whether that's still happening or not.

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I think this is the best response. It should be viewed as poetry & allegory more than hard science-fiction. I do agree with the OP that much of the pacing & acting was often leaden & clunky; but then there are moments that really capture the lyrical quality of the original stories. And I liked the outdoor Martian sets quite a bit -- they had a natural, organic look to them, as if they'd really been there for thousands of years, rather than being built the day before shooting began.

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It is sad that you cannot see beyond the 'Effects' to grasp the moral of the story, because there is one. I cannot tell you because if you do not see it, no amount of my explaining it to you will make a difference. Try looking at it from another perspective, listen to what is being said and stop worrying about the 'graphics' and then maybe....just maybe you will understand it's meaning!

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It is sad that you cannot see beyond the 'Effects' to grasp the moral of the story, because there is one. I cannot tell you because if you do not see it, no amount of my explaining it to you will make a difference. Try looking at it from another perspective, listen to what is being said and stop worrying about the 'graphics' and then maybe....just maybe you will understand it's meaning!
It's hard to take advice on 'seeing the meaning' of the mini-series(which by the way, I did) from someone who can't grasp the meaning of my post, and instead zeroes in on one word/point. Go back and read what I wrote (if you ever did the first time) and stop trying to make this about you have some greater understanding of the film. Idiot.

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Thanks for saving me on this. I remember reading the book as a kid (weird) and I vaguely remember seeing on TV and wondering why they bothered... I couldn't figure out how you could POSSIBLY make a movie out of the book.

I was going to rent it just to see if it was any better than I recall.

-Most- things don't age well... I think by definition that's what defines a classic... or not. :D

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Rightmind11 this came out in very very early 1980 in the US so by that note you know this was filmed and special effects were done in 79 so really it is 70's but even still like the poster said that even for then it was *beep* so they must of had not had a good budget as I have seen mini series/films from the 70's that have been better

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I watched this as a kid and liked it 30+ years ago. But even then, the space F/X were terrible. I just watched the first installment (The Expeditions) today on DIRECTV ON DEMAND. Oh my GOD!! It aged worse then almost anything I've ever seen. Space 1999 would give this a run for it's money, and in some respects, would win.

The three 2 hour episodes seem like 3 separate Twilight Zone scripts that were expanded from 20 to 120 minutes and then loosely tied together by setting them on "Mars" and each having appearances Rock Hudson. It actually has the feel of forcing pieces from 3 different jigsaw puzzles together and calling it 'one puzzle'. Each of the three parts are padded and stretched for no other apparent purpose than to make the running time longer. And the Twilight Zone feel is no coincidence, as the screenplay was penned by noted TZ writer Richard Matheson. But here, it just doesn't work.

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I've been tempted to buy the blu ray since I love the novel but it sure sounds like a misfire.

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None of your objections matter to those who are open to poetry, metaphor & allegory. Which is the heart of The Martian Chronicles.

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The OP is right about this though. I just tried to watch it again, hoping that it was better than I remembered. It really is not. It is good only as a feeble echo of the original material. It would not matter if the space effects ere bad, but just about everything else is also bad. Story - The screenplay actually does pad to a ridiculous degree, trying to tie the stories together with the mission control and Earth based material even while using bits of the original Bradbury as narration. It is trite and clumsy. I don't know if any actors could come across better in the situation.
And the design is dull and from the earliest scenes on Mars, it never helps to evoke the sense that Bradbury managed with a few words.
On top of everything else, the music is anywhere from uninteresting to simply awful. The Martian Chronicles deserved better.





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