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Fox? Not in credits, no mention by other guys


Fox dies in front of the train. When the guys meet back up--minus Swan, Ajax and Fox--they tell each other about Ajax getting busted and how they don't know where Swan is. They don't even mention their brother Fox. And the actor is not even listed in the credits!!! Wtf. Did the director get halfway through the movie and decide he hated the guy or something?

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"Did the director get halfway through the movie and decide he hated the guy or something?"

Yeah, something like that. He had a feud with the director while filming. He was actually replaced. If you look closely before he dies, the scene where he is running down the steps with Mercy at the train station, when they get to the bottom of the steps you can tell that the replacement is trying his best to hide his face from the camera.

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Hey, thanks to you and everyone who answered me! IMDB needs to have some kind of better notification system. I had no idea this whole conversation even occurred after my question. Thanks for the info.

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When Swan meets Mercy at Union Square, he asks her what happened to Fox. She tells him he got grabbed by a cop. I'm guessing she didn't stick around to see him get turned into scrambled eggs. I didn't notice that conversation until my 3rd viewing.

No one else asks, though. Maybe they thought it would be redundant to add in.








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I read that he was such a pain in the ass to the director that he got fired 6 weeks into filming. His name isn't in the credits because he didn't finish the film. He must still regret that!

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Kind of weird that a fairly small time support player would go picking fights with Walter Hill in that situation and then probably not unreasonably, end up being fired from the set.🐭

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This article tells the entire story:

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/remember-the-warriors-behind-the-chaotic-drug-fueled-and-often-terrifying-making-of-a-cult-classic-7607043

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Absolutely fascinating article about the movie's background and social context of the story. Had no idea that up till 7 weeks into actually filming, Fox was conceived as the starring character. Amazing what they can achieve in an editing suite. Thanks for posting.🐭

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Sort of reminds me of The Thin Red Line how it was filmed with Adrian Brody as the lead, only for the editing room to result in him being in a scene for a few minutes.

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Great article that, Alwood. At least Fox managed to realise his mistakes and speak again to Walter Hill.

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I'm a big fan of the film and have watched it uncountable times. I think it's the best pure action film ever made. I always wondered why the Fox character was killed off so abruptly and why Waites wasn't in the credits. I always thought it was the film's major flaw. But this makes sense. After all these years, we get an explanation. Waites thought he was going to be the star of the movie. That's fascinating. It's funny that this and "And Justice For All" are probably his most famous films. This sounds like one of those things you do when you're young and dumb. Waites thought he was a bigger deal that what he was. Not uncommon in your 20s. His life turned out ok, though.

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It was penis envy wasn't it?

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