In the first minutes of the movie, the Stalker wakes up but his wife hears him, and they have a fight over him going through the Zone again. The Stalker leaves her and she gets something similar to an epilepsy attack. I mean, I understood her crying after the husband, but why rolling on the floor?
That was one of the weirdest scenes from the movie, more than those from the Zone itself.
I thought her crying and rolling around and carrying on was a bit over the top, but who knows? When I was last watching this scene, I had a thought that maybe this sort of thing is practically a standard in Russian cinema (which I freely admit I haven't seen very much of, so I couldn't tell you for sure).
shareShe's russian, that's why. They don't cry like others do, everything is simply EXTREMLY DRAMATIC over there (I'm Czech, so I know...).
And they never ever smile. And everything within Russian art has a bold, deep, dark, pessimistic meaning to it:
A snail sneaking up a plant for example is a synonym for the risks, dangers, all dark political epochs, the general inability to gain happiness, the death of every innocent female and male Russian, the suffering of every Russian child, the blindness of the blind, the sickness of the sick as well as the fact that everything will die sooner and later and also a synonym for the meaninglessness of any meaning in general.
"D-E-S-T-R-O-Y : E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G"
A snail sneaking up a plant for example is a synonym for the risks, dangers, all dark political epochs, the general inability to gain happiness, the death of every innocent female and male Russian, the suffering of every Russian child, the blindness of the blind, the sickness of the sick as well as the fact that everything will die sooner and later and also a synonym for the meaninglessness of any meaning in general.And sarcasm. Don't forget about that. Snails are very sarcastic.
Think so? I think you're CLEARLY overdoing it now...
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Sarcasm... *Dow*... sure!
And also the bad luck in EVERY good luck. And such.
"D-E-S-T-R-O-Y : E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G"
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"Just watch "Love & Death" if you still don´t believe"
If I still don't believe what? Did I miss something?
"D-E-S-T-R-O-Y : E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G"
wouldn't say it's overly dramatic given what her husband is like....you need to put it in perspective...
shareIn the first minutes of the movie, the Stalker wakes up but his wife hears him, and they have a fight over him going through the Zone again. The Stalker leaves her and she gets something similar to an epilepsy attack. I mean, I understood her crying after the husband, but why rolling on the floor?
That was one of the weirdest scenes from the movie, more than those from the Zone itself.Well, one of the things you need to do when watching sci-fi is to "re-calibrate" what constitutes "normality" in the movie's milieu-- the community immediately outside the zone is a crumbling society filled with people protecting, investigating and exploiting the zone; while the environment inside is kept almost "natural".
Why so fanboy? She was obviously over-acting her role, and it has nothing to do with being a lonely mother (I assume you were a lonely mother at some point so you know better than me?)
Up until the point when she sat on her chair, it felt completely natural. She was crying and she was in grief. Then she felt from her chair and started acting like she was giving birth.
Why so fanboy? She was obviously over-acting her role, and it has nothing to do with being a lonely mother (I assume you were a lonely mother at some point so you know better than me?)Err, why so anti-fanboy?
Up until the point when she sat on her chair, it felt completely natural. She was crying and she was in grief. Then she felt from her chair and started acting like she was giving birth.Well, if it makes you feel better: taken OUT of the film's context, she would looked like she was having a fit-- except that she would not be crying like that in a fit.... And without the context of the entire film, you would have no reference to determine whether she was "over-acting", so I still don't think you made a good point.
Really, watch that scene again: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4947870279914964017# (11:30 up to 12:25). If you can't still see what's wrong in there, I will just assume that you never actually left your home in order to actually see humans expressing emotions, of pain at least.
shareReally, watch that scene again: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4947870279914964017# (11:30 up to 12:25). If you can't still see what's wrong in there, I will just assume that you never actually left your home in order to actually see humans expressing emotions, of pain at least.Again, the "sudden" outbreak is part of the wife's role/character (and is suppose to be sudden)-- it is only "wrong" if you insist pre-hysteria wife is the "correct" wife for the movie, as if you were somehow "know" her character better than the way she is written/directed....
I'm sorry, I can't speak robotish. And I'm not part of the biggest MMO from the internet of who's the better arguer either, so go play in this pool: http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/threads/. They can't wait for you to refute their fallacies :D.
shareI'm sorry, I can't speak robotish. And I'm not part of the biggest MMO from the internet of who's the better arguer either, so go play in this pool: http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/threads/. They can't wait for you to refute their fallacies :D.Err, non-sequitur (ie. making much about having nothing to say)?
The Stalker leaves her and she gets something similar to an epilepsy attack.
I am not a specialist on Russian traditional culture but I have a vague idea that wife's overly dramatic behavior had something to do with Russian traditions. I mean in traditional Russian culture women are allowed (expected) to behave like that in certain situations. The situations seem to include mourning for the death of a loved one, praying for god and asking husband for a big favour.
shareI assume she had plenty of angry built up, so she was letting it out, in a fit of rage. Her husband obviously keeps doing something that has caused some serious disfunction in their family. However, he just keeps doing it. I love the way Tarkovsky goes from the chaotic fit to Stalker walking, in an almost bored way. It seems like his way to escaping from family life, despite the impending danger.
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I assume she had plenty of angry built up, so she was letting it out, in a fit of rage. Her husband obviously keeps doing something that has caused some serious disfunction in their family. However, he just keeps doing it. I love the way Tarkovsky goes from the chaotic fit to Stalker walking, in an almost bored way. It seems like his way to escaping from family life, despite the impending danger.
If they cut this scene down (ie cutting out her lying down *beep* that just looks extremely stupid) this movie would be a straight 10. Now its still suffer this "do they really know what they are doing here?" and it damages the film.
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