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When Ben was talking to Jason about when he was a kid and snuck into the Marstan house did he really see Hubie hanging or was he imagining it?

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When Ben was talking to Jason about when he was a kid and snuck into the Marstan house did he really see Hubie hanging or was he imagining it?

Ben didn't seem to be too sure of the answer himself. At least in the book. In the mini-series, he was more inclined to believe that he really saw something, but even here, he was not 100%.

Not much of an answer, I know, but I think this is one of those cases where there is no definite solution.

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The answer to the question is that it is difficult to be 100% sure.

Everyone on the thread here can read and decide for themselves:

From 'Salem's Lot' (1975 Novel) by Stephen King -:

‘At the top of the stairs I got all my courage and ran down the hall to that room. My idea was to run in, grab something from there, too, and then get the hell out of there. The door at the end of the hall was closed. I could see it getting closer and closer and I could see that the hinges had settled and the bottom edge was resting on the doorjamb. I could see the doorknob, silvery and a little tarnished in the place where palms had gripped it. When I pulled on it, the bottom edge of the door gave a scream against the wood like a woman in pain. If I had been straight, I think I would have turned around and gotten the hell out right then. But I was pumped full of adrenaline, and I grabbed it in both hands and pulled for all I was worth. It flew open. And there was Hubie, hanging from the beam with his body silhouetted against the light from the window.’

‘Oh, Ben, don’t—’ she said nervously.

‘No, I’m telling you the truth,’ he insisted. ‘The truth of what a nine-year-old boy saw and what the man remembers twenty-four years later, anyway. Hubie was hanging there, and his face wasn’t black at all. It was green. The eyes were puffed shut. His hands were livid . . . ghastly. And then he opened his eyes.’

Ben took a huge drag on his cigarette and pitched it out his window into the dark.

‘I let out a scream that probably could have been heard for two miles. And then I ran. I fell halfway downstairs, got up, and ran out the front door and straight down the road. The kids were waiting for me about half a mile down. That’s when I noticed I still had the glass snow globe in my hand. And I’ve still got it.’

‘You don’t really think you saw Hubert Marsten, do you, Ben?’ Far up ahead she could see the yellow blinking light that signaled the center of town and was glad for it.

After a long pause, he said, ‘I don’t know.’ He said it with difficulty and reluctance, as if he would have rather said no and closed the subject thereby. ‘Probably I was so keyed up that I hallucinated the whole thing. On the other hand, there may be some truth in that idea that houses absorb the emotions that are spent in them, that they hold a kind of . . . dry charge. Perhaps the right personality, that of an imaginative boy, for instance, could act as a catalyst on that dry charge, and cause it to produce an active manifestation of . . . of something. I’m not talking about ghosts, precisely. I’m talking about a kind of psychic television in three dimensions. Perhaps even something alive. A monster, if you like.’

She took one of his cigarettes and lit it.

‘Anyway, I slept with the light on in my bedroom for weeks after, and I’ve dreamed about opening that door off and on for the rest of my life. Whenever I’m in stress, the dream comes.’

‘That’s terrible.’

‘No, it’s not,’ he said. ‘Not very, anyway. We all have our bad dreams.’

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Wow thanks for this. I just downloaded the audio book on my phone. Too lazy to read lol. Will be listening during bedtime.

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The crappy 2004 version made it appear as if he did really see him.

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Most here don't even consider the 2004 version as a source for anything.

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A quick note to 'guncrazy54' if you are out there: I can highly recommend the audio-book of 'Salem's Lot' I have not one but two different versions of the audio-book myself and have listened to them more times than I care to admit to.

What also might be of interest to you - after you are good and finished with the text of the novel, that is - is the 1995 Radio Drama.

There is a more detailed post about it on the board here (started by yours truly) so I will not go into it here.

Long story short: For anyone who is interested the entire show is available at the SFF Audio website as follows:

www.sffaudio.com/bbc-radio-drama-stephen-kings-salem-lot-podcast/

Enjoy one and all.

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Yes I have downloaded the audio book and will be listening this weekend!

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Hey 'guncrazy54',

I can genuinely say you are in for a treat this weekend. This is one of the few times that I would love to be able to exchange brains with you (temporarily, of course) so that I could have the enjoyment of listening to the novel for the first time!

'exchange brains'? What is this, some kind of a horror movie?

Enjoy every minute. Cheers for now.

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Hahahaha. I am savoring it, it will be my bedtime story :)

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Hey 'guncrazy54',

I can genuinely say you are in for a treat this weekend. This is one of the few times that I would love to be able to exchange brains with you (temporarily, of course) so that I could have the enjoyment of listening to the novel for the first time!

'exchange brains'? What is this, some kind of a horror movie?

Enjoy every minute. Cheers for now.
Having read the novel many times, I have to agree with my friend from the UK.

An item of possible interest to most of us on this board is that when SK wrote the novel, it took place slightly in the future. Indeed, when I read it, I was working a night security patrol near Seattle, Washington, in, if memory serves, the summer of 1975. Another security patrolman of my acquaintance was reading SL at the same time. The book takes place in September and October of that year.

SK often sets his stories in the future. When I wrote my novel, The Pale Horse, I did the same thing.

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SK often sets his stories in the future. When I wrote my novel, The Pale Horse, I did the same thing.

Hi Gary,

You raised an interesting point above. However from a 'writers' viewpoint, is it not an absolute necessity that writing fiction (that is contemporary fiction) by it's nature HAS to be placed in the near future?

What I mean is that both the writing and publication process can be long, draw-out and arduous to say but the least. With those factors in mind, does it not then become a necessity for contemporary fiction to be in the near future?

A book set in the 'near future' when written, has more of a chance to be 'contemporary' upon publication, i.e. when it hits the shelves for the reading public.

Post with any thoughts you might have.

Cheers for now.





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There are numerous novels that were actually set in the past, such as Westerns, (Louis L'aMour, Zane Grey) and Lew Wallace set Ben-Hur in Roman-ruled Judea. I did a short story once that was set in ancient Greece, and had as backdrop, the battle at Thermopylae.

But that does not address the question that you raised. I'd still have to say 'no'. In my case, when I wrote The Pale Horse, I already set the calendar days and days of the week and so I went to a perpetual calendar to see which year corresponded to the dates that I had picked out and the closest one was 2014.

That was how I picked the year for my novel. Hope that answers the question.

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King is really good at that - blurring the line between what is real and what isn't. Making you think about how if something seems real, it might as well be real.

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In point of fact, though... Ben couldn't have actually seen the literal Hubie Marsten hanging from the beam. Hubie hung himself and killed his wife (not in that order obviously) in the 30's. Ben went into the house in the 50's. Hubie's body was long since buried or cremated, and so Ben was seeing a vision or a ghost-like projection, not Hubie himself.

This signature really brings the room together, Does It Not?

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Yes. As Ben said to Jason Burke himself, the house was full of ghosts both literally and figuratively.

"Life IS pain highness. Anyone who says differently is selling something".

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I have a question for 'guncrazy54' if they are out there:

Hey 'guncrazy54',

You commented earlier in the thread that you had got a copy of the audio book (of the novel) and loaded it onto your phone.

Did you ever get a chance to listen to the book?

And if so, what did you think?

Enquiring minds want to know.

Cheers for now.

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