Barlow and Crockett


This killing always fascinated me, and it's a very underrated scene, imo. Just imagine what Larry just went through with Cully, only for things to get worse! How/why do you think Crockett was selected by Barlow? It seems weird that the Master was just wondering around town, and just happened on the Sawyers' house. It would be better served for Barlow to vampirize poor Larry, rather than give the poor guy a heart attack. I'd appreciate any thoughts on how you think the whole sequence went down.

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You love this scene don't you stones? I remember the big debate over whose hand was in Crockett's face, Barlow's or Straker?
Didn't Crockett become a vampire in the book?

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Yes he did, and I think he and his wife got to Royal Snow. FWIW, I never assumed Barlow's hand until the last few years. So much more could've been done with that scene, imo. Why is Barlow right there though waiting for poor Crockett?

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I believe the debate started because Barlow was barely out of the crate and Straker was already out doing his thing when that happened.

Assuming it was Barlow that got Crockett, he probably already had him targeted based on Straker's comments about how Barlow was arriving soon and "enjoying" Crockett. Based on the town rumors it wouldn't be hard to guess where Crockett was, especially if Barlow went to his house first and he wasn't there.

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I'm in a "replying" mood today; anyway, I think Larry got a raw deal, as I mentioned a while back. He basically hooks Straker/Barlow up, and doesn't even get the afterlife as a "reward". Unless his heart attack ended that possibility, but Larry was a sinner, so you'd think Barlow would like that.

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I think the sins of that town is what drew Barlow in the first place.

The 2004 version butchered this whole situation. They made Crockett a child molester with his own daughter and gave him a southern accent even though he was from Maine. I guess the accent demonstrated the ignorance that Hollywood has for southerners, I've never in my life heard of anyone here doing that or "marrying their cousin", all of that comes from Movies and television.

Sorry for the off topic, but that's one of many issues I have with that movie.

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Yes he did, and I think he and his wife got to Royal Snow. FWIW, I never assumed Barlow's hand until the last few years. So much more could've been done with that scene, imo. Why is Barlow right there though waiting for poor Crockett?
My position was (and still is) that Barlow's meeting with Crockett was happenstance. IOW, it was an unfortunate (for Crockett) accident.

What argues against this?

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You don't think that the prior relationship between Straker and Crockett goes against this? Straker said that he told Barlow about Crockett, must all the blanks be filled in?

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You don't think that the prior relationship between Straker and Crockett goes against this? Straker said that he told Barlow about Crockett, must all the blanks be filled in?
Assuming that Barlow was told about Crockett (and, yes, I know what Straker said to Crockett) you have given me a different way of looking at the meet between him and Barlow.

BTW, I am not asking for 'all the blanks' to be filled in. I'm just wondering if the meet was anything but happenstance, which was how it looked, and still does, to me. Capice?

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Presently I’m going to side with Gary who says that Crockett’s death was ‘happenstance’, however I would also like to add in a generous dollop of ‘dramatic irony’ if I may.

It is possible that Crockett’s own stupidity (not to mention his lust for Bonnie) lead him to his death.

Also it might have been a ‘salvation’ of sorts for Cully and Bonnie.

Follow me for a moment in my line of reasoning here:

27.01: Straker hires Crockett to make sure the ‘sideboard’ (i.e. the crate containing Barlow) is delivered to the Marsten House.

28.00: Straker to Crockett: ‘You will procure four stout padlocks’ with specific instructions that everything is to be locked up securely (hence prevent an escape of the hungry Barlow.)

Crockett hires Cully for the Portland job, who in turn sub-contracts it out to Mike Ryerson and Ned Tibbets, for his own reasons of wanting to discover the affair between Bonnie and Crockett. Somewhere along the way the importance of the ‘locking everything up’ instruction is not communicated.

Ryerson and Tibbets are in a tense and wound up state after delivering the crate to the house.

53.26: Ryerson to Tibbets: ‘The padlocks throw them down, the keys throw them down too.’

53.40: Tibbets does precisely that, hence not following orders, and leaving Barlow ‘free to roam’ as it were.

57.26: Straker delivers the body of Ralphie to the Marsten House, supposedly as a ‘wake-up snack’ however, the crate has obviously been forcibly broken out of.

1.02.58: An ill-used and unfortunate Crockett has an even more ill-fated meeting with Barlow

Cully and Bonnie later drop Crockett’s body at the lake, to avoid any connection with them (i.e. the fact that the poor guy had a heart-attack outside their house.) After all, didn't Dr. Norton say to Ben that there was 'local gossip' about the affair?

Thus it has all come full circle, Crockett causes his own death, and oddly the ‘winners’ out of the situation are Cully and Bonnie, who wisely decide to ‘skip town’ and avoid the local heat, and avoiding much worse into the bargain (although they do not know it.)

Score one for a little marital infidelity, if you will.

Please post with any thoughts.

Cheers for now.

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Crockett's motivation and lust is separate from whether or not Barlow knew where he was. Barlow would have just as well gone to Crockett's house or office to kill him.

I already pointed out the town gossip, that would explain how Barlow knew where he was.

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In horror cannon, those who are promiscuous usually pay the price, such as Larry AND Bonnie, but Hooper threw us a curve-ball, and Bonnie got away without penalty, save for a rocky marriage, but poor Crockett paid the ultimate price. In the book, Barlow met with Corey(Ned)after Reggie(Cully)threatened him, but that obviously wouldn't have worked in the film with Larry. FWIW, I think Cully/Reggie was a fat wuss for not just beating up Corey/Larry, rather than go through the baloney with the rifle.

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