It doesn't matter if it is for shock value or whatever. It is cruel, unnecessary and just sick. Now i know there are a lot of immature people who will respond with 'how cool' it is to see them die, etc. But honestly, it is not. This is just absolutley pathetic and should have never happened and should never happen again.
sharewell its true it shouldnt be filmed but animals are killed everyday for many people to eat
shareyeh that serves a purpose, this did not.
sharetechnically they ate the turtle.
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i didn't mean to come off as offensive, I'm not defending the movie (I didn't really like it). I agree that the animal killings were wrong, however it is time to move on. That kind of thing doesn't happen anymore in (most) movies. It's like reading a history book and being constantly bummed out about slavery. Yes slavery is wrong, but it's not around anymore.
also, don't read so much into the way i made my statement, did you lose sleep over the word "technically"?
"It's like reading a history book and being constantly bummed out about slavery. Yes slavery is wrong, but it's not around anymore"
Are you saying animal cruelty doesn't exist anymore?? Because it does.
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i never said animal cruelty isn't around anymore, i said it wasn't used in movies anymore. the argument of this thread is that the use of animal cruelty in movies (or as a source of entertainment in general) is wrong, and it is, but for the most part that isn't around anymore in the US. Unless you count hunting for instance... but that could be another subject completely.
shareWaaaa someone killed an animal in a movie 30 years ago lets keep crying about it. Go back to your PETA protests...I will eat whatever animal I want. Hell I will go eat a turtle right freaking now...I'll film myself doing it and send it to you.
share"It's like reading a history book and being constantly bummed out about slavery. Yes slavery is wrong, but it's not around anymore"
Are you saying animal cruelty doesn't exist anymore?? Because it does.
Slavery is over???
you are *beep* retarded. NO IT IS NOT
if they wanna change they country for the place where the american blacks (or which other new political corect defintion is en vogue) in usa live? or should we look back how formely slaves are building a new country called Liberia? Whas a great project.....you dont have to hate black people or to feel better as a white one if you only know the history of this country. Then the Amistad movie from Spielberg which was sooooooooo happy ending sweet....until the story in real ends that protagonist of the movie will be after a boss for trading slaves.
Neverending story and this one only from a view of a provocateur ;-)
Discussion about movies and moral but also in a country which many states know today to execute a human on a electrical death chair......hey put someone to be cooked on a stair until they die. Really sometimes i cant get some arguments for real. And then its hard to stay calme when you see how others around you just discuss the same hype at time but dont have a small knowledge about history and that bad or good only is a definiton from humans. IN WHICH TIME, IN WHICH COUNTRY OR CULTURE.....also never the same.
i dont blame the people for trying making the world a better place. i wish sometimes i can just destroy it.....not start building better one. just destroying.
but emotions and special persons are then which prevents me to try it just...even if i will fail so fast as i start ;-)
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"It's like reading a history book and being constantly bummed out about slavery. Yes slavery is wrong, but it's not around anymore."
That's a smart way of looking at it and I'd never thought of that before.
"It's like reading a history book and being constantly bummed out about slavery. Yes slavery is wrong, but it's not around anymore."
The only problem with that analogy is that people are still bummed out about slavery. There are people in America who aren't over it and they weren't even a part of it. That's why some people are still harping on about reparations.
slavery isnt over. it is voulanteraly nowadays.
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Ah, but don't white supremacists like you support a return of slavery? Just admit it because people like you are swarming crime videos on YouTube.
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Um , thats a load of bull. Kids in China are forced to work at sweat shops for pay of a bowl of rice. And not to mention the large underground sex trade that goes on, women and children are kidnapped and then sold to be sex workers in foreign countries.
Thats all happening NOW
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Come on now, the guy was trying to make a point. I am pretty certain that he was talking about the African slavery in America, which, I can attest to, no longer exists. Let's not get so hung up on this point. What he is trying to say is that animal cruelty in movies no longer exists, so what is the point of bringing up a point that is now moot? I don't think you will find anyone that disagrees that an animal should not be slaughtered in the making of a movie. You aren't breaking any ground or bringing up a point that is even relevant to current movie making procedures. Let's cut the guy some slack. He obviously wasn't thinking about the sex trafficking epidemic, or sweat-shops in China. Take a breath, and chill the *beep* out.
shareTake a look at your prison system, slavery put into system.
But yeah, I agree, got the point - move on.
the prison system is a joke, but equating it to slavery is a bit hyperbolic, don't you think? The reverse comparison might make it look a little like you are comparing the people that have been forced into slavery to convicted criminals... That's a pretty fine line.
shareTouche, however, I still slightly disagree. I refuse to believe that your prison population is in any way representative for your criminal population - so most of the people in there are in there because of other people's prejudice not because they're criminals (even if they are convicted). For 500 years ago they might say you were committing a crime by simply being black - and so you were a convicted criminal (yeah, I'm taking it a bit far, but you see my point, no?=)..
Plus, I'd say slavery is slavery, regardless of what the slave have done earlier in his life. Of course you need laws and punishments for those who break them, but when you profit on it, it's suddenly in people's interest to have criminals in their society and things start getting sketchy.
Valid point, my friend.
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Many criminals are non-violent offenders and victims of corruption, bud.
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The only problem there is the news media will say anything to get ratings. Yes, sex slavery does occur and it's horrible, but it's better to do the research yourself instead of relying on CNN or Fox.
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Slavery still exists, bro. Who do you think makes your shoes?
share" It's like reading a history book and being constantly bummed out about slavery. Yes slavery is wrong, but it's not around anymore."
Oh how wrong you are about this one! Go pick up a book on the sex trade to get started...
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why dont you carve out a hole in a tree and *beep* it. you people(including OP) are in need of a good slap in the face to make you realize what matters in the world. i bet you walk by homeless people and dont think twice about giving them change but an animal gets tortured (which has happened more or less for thousands of years) and your all offended. start giving a *beep* about what matters in the world rather than a buncha animals from 20 years ago
shareFirst of all, the animal was killed for ENTERTAINMENT... what don't you understand about that? There is a difference between a predator attacking it's prey in the wild for survival and a human who is killing something not for survival but for the sick pleasure in knowing he can. Just because you CAN does not mean you SHOULD. It's called right and wrong.
Yes there are homeless people, but however they became homeless was not the result of somebody who made them that way for the purpose of exploiting it through film...
You're a *beep*
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You give homeless people money you are simply enabling a bad lifestyle choice. The bulk of money will almost always go on booze or drugs.
We all make life choices one becoming more popular where I live is to stay on welfare and spend sunny afternoons camped out begging for a top up of the money that was already taken out of my pay check to support someone unwilling to contribute anything positive to society.
Giving money to shelters, food banks is another matter...
And I would give money to organizations that help ANIMALS before I give money to help bums enjoy a free ride on societies back.
And yes, I have heard a lot of sob stories, often about people that just drink all day, stink up the street and try their best to ruin local businesses with their BS.
Maybe they ate all the animals they killed afterwards.
Is that serving your idea of a purpose then?
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People shouldn't be eating animals anyway--our bodies aren't meant for it. Aside from catching and killing with your bare hands and eating it raw. Which means worms, grubs, salamanders and such.
shareI totaly agree! animals get hurt, abused, get to live in awful conditions, tortured, slaughtered and killed everyday just for meat.
Yet, when one has a dog and not big enough dog house or whatever, it's criminal act.
And when someone hurt or kills animals for movies it's immoral and forbiden by law?
People are just dumb, I tell you.
And I'm not in any way defending torturing animals for movies, but it's totaly the same or even less horible than slaughter industry.
Be vegetarian or stop complaining about animal torture, or else you're just a hypocrit!!
Oh yeah, sory for my bad spelling, enlgih is my third language...
But it was intended to shock. If you don't want to be shocked don't watch a *beep* film called Cannibal Holocaust.
As for the ehtics, animals would've been eaten by the natives anyway, probably less humanely. I hate animal cruelty, and never eat battery eggs or pigs and things such that, and the Amazon Rainforest is as *beep* free range as you're ever gonna get.
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I do have a problem with how some of them were killed, especially the mouse rat thing, that thing suffered alot.
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Originally, Deodato had a fake monkey head with fake brains in it to have the natives eat instead of actually killing and eating a monkey. The natives talked him out of it, however, as monkey brains were a delicacy to them.
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the animals weren't put to waste, villagers ate them after they were killed, also animals are killed everyday for food, and nobody complains. As for the reason why they did it, it would cost more to use effects, and they weren't going to waste, so stop bitching about a couple of animals killed almost thirty years ago. if you care so much about animals go cry and join peta.
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The animal deaths are why this film is brilliant. Deodato had courage to film what he knew was taboo, for most. It gives the film such a realistic value. Animals die, by the millions, daily. At least those killed in "Cannibal Holocaust" are forever immortalized in our minds.
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100% agree. It's disgusting and exploitative to truly kill animals for the purpose of making a film....the director made a terrible call there and he has admitted as much.
It was completely unnecessary.
stop bitching and get out of starbucks! BTW this is an EXPLOITATION film, thus meant to be expoitative, seriously why does it matter if some turtle or pig died a while ago.
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Hey sktborder826 - Just because you make a movie and label it an "exploitation" film doesn't give you the right to do whatever you want while filming. Seven animals were killed for this movie! WTF kinda BS is that?!?!
I'm sure it doesn't mean anything to you though. So why don't you hop on your *beep* skateboard and scoot on down the road. Oh, don't forget your baseball bat so you can whack some dogs in the head as you're riding by. That outta give you something to stroke to tonight.
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Agree! In the ten days before it was seized, the film had grossed approximately $2 million. that is alot of people who are into Cannibals. Its great how this Deodato director guy didn't get away with making this snuff film. im happy he was arrested on obscenity charges. checkout: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibal_Holocaust. In glad that New Zealand still bands both versions
I noticed the OP never returned after someone claimed that, technically, they ate the turtle. Stop trolling. Take your rantings to the directors hate mail or something instead of harassing everyone on these message boards.
You go ahead, let your hair down