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Why did they get rid of Chisholm?


Best character ever.

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The writers had turned Chisholm into a cartoonish figure of fun by the time they did 'An Officer and a Car Salesman' (Chisholm's last appearance). If you compare that treatment of the character with how he was portrayed back in the first series - a tough, hard-nosed ruthless copper with a sharp wit and sharp intelligence - you can see that the writers let Chisholm degenerate from a formidable adversary into a comical buffoon. He basically went from a 'Sweeney' era tough copper, into a Wile-E-Coyote style slapstick stooge.

Patrick Malahide was sick and tired of playing the fool, and was much in demand elsewhere for theatre and television roles. He left 'Minder' behind to do more lucrative and satisfying acting work.

Peter Childs - who played the other regular series copper, Sergeant Rycott - also started out in 'Minder' in Series One as a formidable, tough, career policeman who was nobody's fool. As with Chilshom, the writers gradually turned Rycott into a cartoonish figure of fun.

Peter Childs died of leukaemia after completing the filming of Series Seven, meaning that neither Chisholm nor Rycott took part in the Ray Daley era. A new regular adversay copper, Detective Sergeant Morley (played by Nicholas Day), was drafted in to take over the dramatic function that Chisholm and Rycott had fulfilled in earlier years.

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If you compare that treatment of the character with how he was portrayed back in the first series - a tough, hard-nosed ruthless copper with a sharp wit and sharp intelligence - you can see that the writers let Chisholm degenerate from a formidable adversary into a comical buffoon.


Well put. I guess that transformation is inevitable. If he can't catch Daley after 7 years or so, he must be a buffoon. Thinking about it, I suppose they should have got rid of him earlier.

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The writers had turned Chisholm into a cartoonish figure of fun by the time they did 'An Officer and a Car Salesman' (Chisholm's last appearance). If you compare that treatment of the character with how he was portrayed back in the first series - a tough, hard-nosed ruthless copper with a sharp wit and sharp intelligence - you can see that the writers let Chisholm degenerate from a formidable adversary into a comical buffoon. He basically went from a 'Sweeney' era tough copper, into a Wile-E-Coyote style slapstick stooge.
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Great observations, and I agree completely!

Have just watched the first 6 series back2back over the last month or so, and I have to say the Chisholm character became just a figure of fun; an ends-to-a-means in order to offer some light relief to the show. In fact ever since series three, the show's balance between drama & comedy shifted from about 80/20 respectively to 40/60 by series five and beyond.

Clearly the writers were unsure where to take the show during the uneven first couple of seasons, so I guess they went for light humour when they realised the great chemistry going on between Arthur & Terry; the support actors all became comic stooges. Not that I am really criticizing the inevitable direction of the show, but I do think they took the Chisholm character a little far with their lampoonery - reminded me of Inspector "I'll get you, Butler!" Blake, from On The Buses.







"One must first get behind someone, in order to stab them in the back!"

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Chisholm was great but the poster above is right, chisholm was practically shakinhg his fist and and shouting 'Ill get you Daleeeyyyyy' in the later years. The interaction between him arthur and terry was usually brilliant though.

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Malahide actually had a dry run at playing a 'Chisholm type' policeman a year before he started on Minder, in the feature film Sweeney 2. His performance there (as a droll, dry witted, cynical cockney copper) is very much in line with how he initally played Chisholm in the first series of Minder in 1979.

Interesting to see the Chisholm mannerisms, bearing and accent in microcosm in this big screen Sweeney spin-off, just a few short months before Euston Films cast Malahide as a series regular for Minder. Malahide had evidently learned a lot from his earlier experiences with Euston Films; both from the feature film, and from a Sweeney television episode that he was in the same year.

Evidently the Euston Films team were very taken with Malahide, and very much wanted him on board for their next project. Minder gave him his first regular television role and career break.

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catch Daley for what? London had sawn-off shotgun robberies of high street banks then. Was Chisholm hard-nosed?

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yes, Chisholm's obsession with catching Arthur for his petty fiddles was always absurd, I don't think he was ever very impressive as a policeman, If he had been he'd have been going after murderers, bank robbers, drug dealers, not minor conmen like Arthur.

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Yes, when there were some proper villains about Chisholm didn't seem keen to get his hands dirty.

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Both head coppers were brilliant ! sad that Peter Childs died so young.

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Yes! Good old Peter Childs, a real solid soldier of a character actor. Departed far too young. Many will remember him for playing the stern but humane Mr Humphries in the Grange Hill spin-off series Tucker's Luck for the BBC.

The early Rycott episodes of Minder were of course far grittier and harder than the comedy of later years. Rycott was originally a hard-edged (and borderline bent) rozzer with a nose for villainy and a track record of police corruption behind him. Arthur and Terry were genuinely afraid of him (as they were of Chisholm), because he was sharp, streetwise, tough, shifty, on-the-make, and always sniffing out a good collar to improve his formidable arrest record. He had brains and instinct. He wasn't the inept twit that the writers turned him into later on.

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Hard-edged and constantly going after a petty conman and vaguely dodgy dealer like Arthur? about as hard edged as a marshmallow.

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You might want to rewatch Rycott's first episode 'The Smaller They Are'. It's always a pleasure to rewatch the first two series, and the portrayals of Rycott and Chisholm as the running adversaries during the early days. Completely different to the comical berks they became later on.

Rycott is definitely a harder-edged, streetwise copper with a murky, corrupt past (who could have come straight from an episode of The Sweeney) when he's first introduced. Go and have another look. Very, very different to the Rycott of later years.

His comical obsession with nicking Arthur Daley is something the writers decided to factor in later on. Originally he became involved in cases because of the far more dangerous and 'big league' criminals that Terry and Arthur sometimes got themselves mixed up with.

It wasn't originally all about nicking Daley and McCann - they were small fry for someone like Rycott. This changed almost entirely in later series as "I'll get you, Daley!!!" became the mantra and running gag.

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Isn't there a episode in series 2/3 where he comes in to the Winchester to push Dave that his drinks license is up for renewal, and while there tells (or more like Orders) Arthur that both him and Terry should think twice who they hang around with while Arthurs is doing his latest get rich scheme?

I agree, it is not until much later that Rycott becomes this clown figure that Chisholm had become midway through his run.

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There's also an early episode (think it's from Series 2) where Rycott leads a team of tough coppers into a scrap with some hardened villains. We got to see Rycott actually getting tough and physical, beating up thugs with professional skill and slamming a villain's head down on the solid metal bonnet of a car. An interesting opportunity for Peter Childs to engage in a fight sequence.

Exactly the type of rough stuff that got filtered out of the show as time went on. The producers eventually wanted ever-broader comedy, and a general 'softening' of material, tone, and characterisation.

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