Minder's London


Does the London depicted in Minder still exist, or did it ever?

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I often clock street names when they walk or drive past a sign and yes, they do exist. The whole look of London has changed since then though, with acres knocked down and rebuilt or regenerated. A "Guide to Minder's London" would be a good idea, if it hasn't been done already. I'd love to go round visiting those sites.





My body makes no moan
But sings on:
All things remain in God.

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Join the forum from Minder.org, there is lots of topics about Minder sites and now and then photos!

"The World is Your Lobster My Son!"-Arthur Daley, Minder.

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Thanks, will do.





My body makes no moan
But sings on:
All things remain in God.

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The London of Minder doesn't really exist anymore. The characters and wheeler-dealers still do, but they have largely moved out into Essex and Kent.

Terry wouldn't stand a chance against the villains of central and west London nowadays. He'd be shot dead or knifed by Yardie, Triad or Somali gangs the moment they appeared. Mr Chisholm and his welsh sidekick would be walking around in body armour while being forced to undergo racial sensitivity training.

Terry also certainly wouldn't be able to afford the rent on his one-bed flat in Fulham anymore, and I doubt the Winchester Club (which I think was in Holland Park) would exist either.

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Interesting seeing West London look so seedy and down at hill.

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The door of the WINCHESTER CLUB was right next door to the posh Julies Restaurant in West London, the interiors were wherever the film production base was. At one time this would be in a double garage at the old national savings building right next door to the Olympia exhibition halls..

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A lot of it was ilmed right by where I grew up in NW10. Harlesden/ Willesden.
I saw Mr Cole sitting in the jag as they were filming an episode one day in the early 90s. I had walked across the parking lot of the back of my local Asian shop and I didn't realised I walked right across the shot they were trying to film. I felt a bit daft disrupting it but Mr Cole just looked up at me and smiled.



"Arthur Daley- a little dodgy maybe- but underneath- e's alright"

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Hugh 1971 - what a politically incorrect statement that was - but entirely accurate and true, unfortunately, nonetheless!

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Basically it was based at the end of the old school White working class villains, though Arthur was more a rougue than an out and out villain.
It exists in it's way but not as much.
It certainly records a time and a place in London's history though real Arthur Daleys would have had a lot more violence, and been much more capable of violence than Arthur ever was.

Terry might survive, but just using his fists wouldn't get you very far nowadays.

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Well said....

I always thought Harry Enfield should have done a sketch in the style of "Old Skool" Minder vs "New age" London


Terry: Arthur! youre not meant to light those dodgy E-Cigars. You look like right berk chewing on that Lah-di-dah....

Arthur: Very droll Terence, very droll.

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Plenty of it does, Napolean - most of it was shot in west London, you're probably aware. A lot of it is knocked down, where they let place/road names be seen on screen. I was watching the episode 'You Need Hands' today and have visited the site where the security guard makes the 'drop'/Terry gets beaten up was - little has changed. Except there are offices where the 'drop' was and the Latimer Arms Pub looks like private flats now - this also featured in 'Steptoe and Son' in the 1970's episode 'Loathe Story' where Harold, as a young boy, is waiting for old Albert to emerge drunk from the pub.

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Most of the crime scene in Essex and Kent also, has been taken over by Yardies, Somalis, Indians, and Pakistanis, as London housing has spread eastward

When someone earlier in this thread it isn't politically correct to say that, do they mean it is illegal to say it?!! Is it meant to be covered up or something?

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As some one else has mentioned go to Minder.Org. A core of half a dozen members have done a true labor of love with every episode listed with many filming locations all with then and now photos. I can clearly remember the London of the early 80s and believe me it had nearly completely changed by the end of the decade, and now is like a different city. The London of 1980 was a very very quiet place compared to the rammed out city we have now.Arthur and Terry would not be able to get around town like they did in the early series.

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Arthur's car lot was in Dewhurst Road W12, next door to where my Aunt lived at the time. There's probably a £3 million house on it now.

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It was all mostly west London, usually filmed on locations within half an hour's driving distance (at least that's how long it took in those days!) of Euston Films production base in Fulham. You see a lot of Fulham, Hammersmith, occasionally Shepherds Bush and Holland Park, Chiswick, Brentford, Twickenham, Hounslow, Acton, Hanwell, Ealing etc.

The Ray Daley episodes (1991-1994) had lots of location filming around Ealing. My old (sadly long gone) local chip shop on Northfield Avenue was used in one episode for a police stake-out scene. South Ealing Road, Saint Mary's Road and Saint Mary's Church can be seen in street scenes in a couple of episodes. And of course the long since demolished and much missed cinema on Ealing Broadway (opposite the town hall) can be seen in the pub quiz episode, with the late George Cole walking through the iconic pillared Ealing cinema entrance to watch a screening of 'The Silence of the Lambs'!

Amazing how quickly London landmarks are altered or destroyed. Watching shows from the 80s and 90's really hits home how much has vanished or been re-developed in the cause of 'progress'.

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