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Could somebody explain the Thanksgiving / turkey drop episode?


It's been many years since I've seen the famous Thanksgiving / turkey drop episode so my memory is a bit fuzzy. It seems that the climax involved the station dropping live turkeys over Cincinnati which then plummet to the ground, with Carlson saying he thought turkeys could fly.

What I don't get is that since turkeys really can fly, what is it supposed to be about? Was there something about the turkeys that prevented them from flying or something? Anybody know?

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Wild turkeys may be able to fly, but domestic turkeys which are bred to produce as much meat as possible would have a hard time doing so. So they probably would simply plummet to the ground.

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Especially when frozen.

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Frozen turkeys would have plummeted at about the same rate as live ones. Just because the body's water is frozen doesn't make them weigh less.

But the whole point is that they were live, not frozen. I still remember the line after all these years: "As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly."

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It doesnt matter if they weighed less or not. The only thing that affects how fast 2 objects of differing mass rate of acceleration while falling is wind resistance. The rate at which things fall on the earth is 9.8 m/s/s.

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The rate at which things fall on the earth is 9.8 m/s/s.


Yes, and that rate varies according to wind resistance. Since live turkeys don't fly, their stubby wings probably wouldn't offer much more wind resistance vs. a frozen turkey.

It is better to be kind than to be clever or good looking. -- Derek

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No, they wouldn't. A frozen turkey lacks feathers, not to mention is dead. A live turkey would flap its wings, even if they wouldn't allow them to fly, and that, as well as the feathers, would slow the rate of descent.

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But not nearly enough to prevent them from hitting the ground hard. I'm sure they'd be flapping for their lives, but even wild turkeys aren't meant for flying for great distances or speeds.

Then, when you consider these turkeys were bread to be heavier - 20# or so - without breeding for stronger wings, they'd still go splat.

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Yes, they would, but they wouldn't fall at the same speed as a frozen turkey, and that was the point.

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Yes, and my point was that domesticated turkeys, bread to have larger breasts and limited flight abilities would have still fallen from that distance and gone splat.

I never said it was the same speed as frozen turkeys. I simply pointed out that live, thanksgiving turkeys dropped from a helicopter on to pavement would go splat.

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The word is "bred" not "bread" for krysakes.



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So they probably would simply plummet to the ground.


That's exactly what they did...according to Les' commentary "They're plopping to the ground like wet cement!" One also went through the windshield of a parked car...

Oh stewardess...I speak jive.

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And I doubt they could fly from a moving helicopter....

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They can get off the ground but not very far. The rest is accurate.



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I remember hearing a report on a local station about this actually happening, a year or so before the episode aired.

My understanding is that they checked with an ornithologist who told them that turkeys couldn't fly well, but they could fly a little. The problem was that he was talking about wild turkeys, and the station that did it used domesticated ones--which fly about as well as bowling balls.

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Not exactly. The station that inspired the turkey drop threw out live turkeys from the back of a semi trailer in a shopping center parking lot. WQXI in Atlanta.

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It's just like Mr. Carlson said: Herb bought defective turkeys.

Funniest episode ever on TV.

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I mentioned to a coworker that I may not be able to wait until Thursday to watch this episode... would you believe there are people who have NEVER seen it?

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Best holiday episode ever

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Best line EVER in any TV show to date!

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"Oh, the humanity!"!



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The first answer from hariseldon59 is pretty much spot on. In fact the commercially grown Thanksgiving birds are so breast-heavy that they can barely walk around normally by the time they're ready for harvest. I once read that the fortunate national bird that gets pardoned each year by the US president is sent to a kind of petting zoo to live out its life which is typically only a few weeks anyway. Both the ceremonial turkey and the reserve bird that is brought along to the White House in case the first one drops dead before the ceremony are quite close to their full life expectancy by the holiday.

These animals are like Franken-birds that scarcely resemble real wild turkeys like Arthur Carlson would have assumed. It still would have been a dopey idea to toss those out of a chopper though. So, in short, turkeys really can fly, but Thanksgiving turkeys are a bit of a science project on legs that have been retarded from flight to keep their white meat 'white' and artificially generous in proportion.

Here's the science if you need it:

https://www.exploratorium.edu/cooking/meat/INT-what-meat-color.html


Eeek!!! I'm getting dressed.

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Of course the question is, if Carlson had been right, what good would the promotion have been anyway? The "giveaway" turkeys would all fly away and no one would get one.

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Well, we all know that Mr. Carlson and Herb aren't too bright.

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I think he expected the birds to land in a kind of controlled glide.

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Here's a turkey drop from Yellville, Arkansas http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b17_1318005039

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My understanding is that wild turkeys would have essentially been able to make a controlled landing, but they can't fly a great distance.

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