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Blackwolf's ironic symbolism


My thoughts on this movie were that, despite Blackwolf's use of Nazi imagery, it was actually the elves who seemed evil in a Nazi-ish kind of way.
For one thing, notice how similar the elves all are. (and I was annoyed by how angry they looked at the beginning of the battle scene, or rather by the manner in which they looked angry.
The mutants all look remarkably different from each other, which goes against the Nazi ideology of one master race. Hitler was trying to eliminate those who were different in his society, whereas Blackwolf seems to be leading those who are different (mutants) against those (the elves) who all look very similar.
The question here is why does Blackwolf favour those who historically went against the way he sees the world? From what I got out of this movie, it's mutants who are persecuted by the elves rather than the other way around, and the elves are simply trying to enforce their persecution of the mutants following Avatar's lead.
Of course, I'm somewhat biased since I generally favor the villain in most fantasy stories and wouldn't mind seeing a fantasy film or two where it's the cutesy (read: hideous) little elves and fairies who are the villains and the bizarre-looking deformities of nature who are the good guys.
Of course, it's been a while since I've seen Wizards, not to mention that I'm mildly intoxicated right now and I feel a little tired, so my brain may not be at its best.
But still, please tell me what you think about my perception of this film?

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This films view of Good and Evil is fairly Simplistic, The Evil Mutants are the Nazis, any Irony in it is simply a coincidence.

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Less like irony, and more like 'whoever scripted this didn't think their plot through!'

Thank you for bring up this point, though. This goes beyond simplistic to 'fractured aesop'.

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I think it was pretty simple... you're trying to look for subtle things when this film obviously tries to knock over the head with ideaology.

Nazi=evil, ruthless, genocidal, fear-mongerors= Blackwolf and his army.

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I don't really get what the ideology of the movie is supposed to be.

I see a world that treats science and technology as inherently evil and shows a world of stagnancy that's supposed to present the "good" side.

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I was actually wondering about this the other day and I think that it wasn't so much the Nazi Aryan race philosophy that intrigued Blackwolf as it was the element of power, intimidation, and massive war machine attitude the group portrayed in whatever leftover artifacts he could find portrayed. He may have seen this powerful and formidable army and assumed that they acheived their world domination goals (remember, World War 2 for the characters was as ancient as biblical times would be for us history wise, so perhaps the Nazi party's dismal future was undiscovered by Blackwolf)and wanted to base his own army off of that.
Also, based off of other sci-fi/fantasy movies I have seen, it seems like elves are one of those races of being that don't vary much appearance wise, where mutants are normally humans or some other creature that were driven to mutation by some sort of radiation or toxin, so their varied look is to be expected, as humans don't always react the same exact way to various elements.
So yeah... you probably asked this a long time ago and no longer care, and I kind of went off on a tangent but that's my 2 cents lol.

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Hmm. That is kind of ironic.

Maybe Blackwolf didn't know about Nazi ideals and couldn't understand the 1940s German, but was really impressed by the war machines and orderly army.

But this movie is full of all kinds of weird inconsistencies. From what they said about the earth being engulfed in fire for so long, there's no way a fragile newsreel and a salvageable projector would've even survived. Global holocaust isn't good for flammable film strips, y'know?

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