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Suspiria: Overrated, Boring, Annoying


This was the last film I saw at a REAL movie house, the great old Norwest theatre in Detroit. I picked up the VHS copy years later, and found it tough viewing.

How this film achieved cult status, or even been considered one of the best horror films is beyond me.

The movie is very slow going. Jessica Harper is cute, but to me, a bit lightweight and funny-looking for a female lead.

I tried to watch this movie a third time and couldn't make it. The main culprits? First, the aforementioned slow story line. And the idiotic, electronic soundtrack, by those masters of the genre, the Goblins, is exceedingly annoying.

It's not scary music. It's not even music. It's just moronic.

I prefer to remember Joan Bennett as the beautiful film-noir actress that she was in the forties. I prefer to remember Alida Valli as the sad girlfriend of Harry Lime in 'The Third Man'.

I understand that Argento is regarded highly in some circles. But this movie is to me a text book example of how NOT to make a horror movie. Then again, my taste runs to classics like "The Old Dark House" (the original, of course).

In short, I wasn't scared by any of the witchy proceedings at the dance school for girls.

Two thumbs down, and a bash on the heads of all of 'The Goblins' with a moog synthesizer.



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It's not a traditional horror film. It's more like an adult version of a Grimm's fairy tale. Some don't care for it. I personally love the film. I love the color palate, the music, the sets. If you're looking for good acting or a great storyline, you've come to the wrong place. Its more like experiencing a bad dream. It certainly is not meant to be realistic in any sense. The blood looks like florescent paint. Rooms change color like a 70's mood ring. Things are illogical. If you notice during the first murder scene, the backround changes while the stabbing occurs... much like how scenes change in a dream. Unlike yourself, I started to appreciate the film even more on subsequent viewings.

Now.... if you REALLY want to see a bad film, watch Mother of Tears!!

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Hey, Bdeezine....

Let's just agree to disagree on this one!

Besides, you cracked me up with that line from my favorite Fields' film.

"Well, I told him I wouldn't do that if I were you!..." is excellent, too!

Take care.


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Exactly how I feel. Also the camera angles, the set location selection is incredible and something you just can't get in most US locations.

It seems a lot of people are looking at it from either an artistic stand or as a film maker would look at something and idolizing it over those things.

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Sums it up perfectly! I bought this for $2.50 at a pawnshop recently without ever having viewed it before. I read a lot of reviews about it, and everyone boasted it. This was actually the first Dario Argento feature I've watched. I thought it was a good movie, and I'm looking forward to showing it to a couple of my friends.

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I really apreciated your comment and I couldn't agree more. When ever I turn people on to this film I have to explain it much like you wrote. You can either apreciate it for it's hulucinatory atmosphere and colours or you can pass it off as a slow moving horror film.

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It´s my favorite horror film, but it´s definetely not a film for everyone. And it DEMANDS various viewings to enjoy it (To tell you the truth, I hated it the first time I watch it, and now I consider it the best horror movie of all time). The film is intended to be nightmare, or more precisely, to look and feel like a child´s nightmare about witches. The film´s bizarre music score, distorted settings, unusual color palette and the characters´ strange motivations are not without a porpuse. It is intended to feel otherworldly and trippy, an assault on the senses, which does not appeal to a number of people. At the time, horror films were made to be as realistic as possible, and this was the total opposite. So you either love it hate it. I don´t expect you to love it, just to understand how some people do find the film to be a masterpiece.

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I do understand what you are trying to say. Art is damn subjective, isn't it?

I just don't have the patience to re-watch films before I can start enjoying them.

And as far as subjectivity, lots of people like "Gone With the Wind" and consider it one of the finest films ever made. I saw it in a real theatre with huge cinerama screen and I thought it was beautifully done.

Do I ever want to watch it again? Er....no.

Then, on the other side of the spectrum, is "Plan 9 From Outer Space" a lousy film? Er...yes. But don't ask me why, I will sit down and watch it again.

Same thing with Hitchcock's '39 Steps', Marx Brothers 'Duck Soup', 'Animal House', Woody Allen's 'Take the Money and Run' and Fleischer's "Narrow Margin". I could watch these films for the rest of my life.

But "Gone With the Wind"? Naaaahhhhhhhh.....

Now I'll tell you a real bad film .... "The Oscar" with Stephen Boyd. It has its funny moments, but is it as fun as 'Plan 9'? Hell no. And this turkey was put together by people with money!

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I hated it at first too, but I saw it again and I loved it! Now I can't get the music out of my head!

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The fact that Jessica Harper is "funny-looking" only adds to her charm, and it fits perfectly within the genre.

And yes, the soundtrack is obviously a product of its time, and may not have dated well for serious soundtrack fans. But I like it.

Of course the film is not "good". The plot is incoherent and cheesy, most of the acting is hammy, the effects lack subtlety. But I also understand how it can be a guilty pleasure for some viewers, with its fairy tale logic and oversaturated colours. Argento gave new life to camp horror when the genre was all but dead.





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Nothing wrong with the soundtrack - it´s occasionally downright great, especially the rather understated (yes indeed it´s the ONLY understated element of this film that´s otherwise balls-to-the-wall flash and overkill) electronic tingling that dominates some of the scenes long enough to make a lasting impression.

The problems lie elsewhere and are way too prominent to overlook - the acting is horrid by pretty much everyone except, perhaps, Harper; the dialogue is a complete howler; the simple story is being consistently overexplained by way of nauseating exposition and also, the first horror set piece is so overcooked and silly as if it was deliberately played for laughs. Not to mention the general ludicrousness of the story, but I guess it comes with the territory.

But it certainly is great to look at despite the overbearing garishness of it all and Argento shows some fine visual imagination. Some scenes work extremely well, actually, and there are images that have the power to linger long in memory. Argento´s style has been compared to that of De Palma, but although there are similarities (emphasis on visuals and a general lack of concern for mundane logic), De Palma is still a far more intelligent film-maker and his moments of silliness are by all means intentional. But although Argento does stuff that´s basically glorified splatter, at least he does it well. At least in this particular picture - I´m aware this highly flawed show is supposed to be his best so I´m not sure I want to see the worse ones. 6,5/10.




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Didn't mean to upset people about my review. One guy who likes the movie even admits it is not good.
I've tried to 'appreciate' this movie three times. To me, it's dull....I'm not an Argento fan. Sorry.

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I just watched this for the first time, the other night.

At first i thought the score was incredibly overbearing and over
the top, but the more it played, the more it grew on me and by the end
i found it quite effective.

The colour palette truly is a wonder to behold. I have to agree
with others when they comment on how we just don't have movies
out there right now that are as colourful as this. The last one that i can
think of was "Speed Racer" which of course is pretty much reviled all
over the map (I quite loved it, though.)

I think there is alot of cheese here, and at times i think it is almost
certainly purposely there for the astute viewer to giggle at.

However, when the murders come they are always deadly serious affairs, and
I marvel at how Argento ALWAYS manages to catch you looking the other
way. In particular I'm thinking of the blind man and the friend. Both
of those scenes were masterfully handled and cut.

And that finale was just truly nightmarish. I'm not sure what it is about
reanimated corpses coming after people, but that has always gotten to me...

It reminded me a bit of that bit in "The Shining" when the corpse gets up
out of the bath tub. (at least that bit exists in the book. I am embarassed
to say that i STILL have never actually watched Kubrick's film all the
way through!)



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I couldn't even finish this film, I really wanted to like this film, but I just cannot. The poor acting & bad dubbing/voice acting is frustrating, and it's just not interesting. I absolutely loved Deep Red, but this.. nope, I cannot stand it. The old style of melodramatic acting is too frustrating to look at.

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A lot of you people are *beep* retarded. This film is genius end of story. Also, Goblin rules.

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Actually elaborate a little.

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nah

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A lot of you people are *beep* retarded. This film is genius end of story. Also, Goblin rules.


It's about as genius as painting a can of soup. i.e. just bloody stupid.

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I'm going to agree with this; I'm watching this right now and I'm deathly bored. I don't think I'll make it through. I'm not expecting anything remotely scary or creepy but I want to at least be entertained and so far the movie is falling flat on that.

I also couldn't stop giggling when the girl was having her face smashed into the window. That was horribly goofy.

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The acting in Deep Red was a lot more melodramatic.

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I find it hard to criticize 'acting' in Argento movies only because, well first of all, a majority of the voices are dubbed, and we all know how bad dub acting is. And secondly, all the actors and actresses are all speaking different languages and just kind of coming in with their lines in their own language at the appropriate time, which would be hard, considering the 'cue' is not even in a language you can understand. If you listen to Jessica's commentary (or interview, I forget where I heard it) she pretty much says it's a very weird experience on the set. Also, she rox because she was on the Gary Shandling show!!!

--Daniel W. Kelly, author of "Closet Monsters" and "Horny Devils."

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Uh....

Gary Shandling? Now you're talking something funny. That was one of the better cable comedies to air.

I revisited this movie and still find it really silly. It goes on for too long showing you absolutely NOTHING.
The soundtrack by the Goblins is quite overbearing. And why act when you can't understand eachother's language and besides, the Goblins are ALWAYS there to create fear, mystery, suspense, ad nauseum.

If you enjoy artsyfartsy european horror movies, than this is right up you alley.

I'm surprised this film registers any fervid devotion in its various fans. It's not scary. This does seem to be a trend....horror movies that aren't scary, comedies that aren't funny. It's been going on for some thirty years now. This movie makes no more sense to me since I saw it at its american premiere nor since in subsequent viewings.

If you like this film, that is fine. I simply disagree.

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I don't think it was supposed to be scary, nor do I think it was supposed to make much sense. The intention was to have it be like one big drawn out nightmare.

"You don't know what death is" - Samuel Loomis (Halloween II)

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I wasn't actually talking about the Gary Shandling cable show. I'm talking about his Fox network show from 20 years ago! The good old days of Fox sunday night comedies.

--Daniel W. Kelly, author of "Closet Monsters" and "Horny Devils."

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Goblin.................not 'The Goblins'

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Did you actually call this a review?

This is not a review this is a bunch of irrational blathering.

Firstly you talk about the Jessica Harper's looks which have nothing to with the film and I am sorry but how the hell do her "funny looks" make her performance hindered? and why do you feel the need to bring up the looks in the first place?

In a SUSPENSE film the story line is supposed to be slow and there is supposed to be a build up which is exactly what happens here. Point 2 debunked.
You sir are an idiot.

"It's not scary music. It's not even music. It's just moronic."

Elaborate and make sense then someone one day will take you seriously.
Goblin's score is unique and if you cannot appreciate this then I suggest you go and watch a more generic movie.

"But this movie is to me a text book example of how NOT to make a horror movie."

You're kidding me right?
I think one the Friday the 13th or Leprechaun franchises is an example of how not to make a horror movie, not this. It has been heralded a masterpiece but practically all critics and it is a favourite of the general public, you most likely think these things because you want to be different or don't want to "conform" when in actual fact you are conforming to non-conformity.

"Two Thumbs Down"

You are not Ebert, you sir are an idiot. Ebert would tear you to shreds in a few seconds.


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