ARNOLD TOOK DRUGS TO GET BUFF?
did Arny take any drugs to get super buff?
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Yes, he claims to have "experimented" with among other things dianobol, which is a steroid. At the time they were perfectly legal in the US and he claims to have been clean since teh late seventies. Although they were legal at the time I still find it to be unsporting. But I suppose he has made up for it in his pushing for drug free sports today and his other social causes.
God Bless!
Drugs or not, he still put everything into getting buff. The drugs around today where nothing like the ones in Arnies day.
Alot of pro's take steriods now anyway, it's not uncommen.
Long live Arnie!
A lot of pro's take steroids, sorry mate you should say all, if you look at the pictures from the few natural bodybuilding contests you will see a massive difference. I am not judging anyone because its a personal thing.
shareha ha ha what do you think.....offcourse do they use roids, everybody did that at the time and i garantee you that you cant mention one pro bodybuilder today who has newer used drugs.
shareThe fact that Arnold took steriods should not the diminish the greatness of his achievements. He was still training for 3-4 hours a day, and was and still is a genetic freak.
"... it strikes a man more dead than a great reckoning in a little room."
agreed, he had the genepool for it and he had the steriods...nuff said :-)
shareAgreed. Too many people attribute his form to steroids, which he did indeed take, but it was the intense, 50 set workouts that enabled him to attain his championship physique. Essentially every pro around that time did them, it was "just another thing, you know".
shareTrue. Many people that time and nowadays use the same amount or much more steroids and they don't even get near Arnies mass.
I don't like steroids in regular sport but in bodybuilding I think it's ok.
Well people, as a body builder myself, I need to inform you, that there are no natural competitions, as there would be no good body builders on stage. Every body that cometes these days, do take steroids, believe me when i say that I have tried the natural way, and could not gain even a sixth of the size that i have gained by taking steroids.
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So what if he took steroids like everyone else has said all the pros did then and now. Steroids alone didnt make his muscles grow he still had to bust his ass in the gym and he would have been huger if he could have taken the better steroids and supplements that are around these days that bb'ers take. Most ppl wouldnt be able to get as huge and cut as pro bodybuilders if they wanted to by taking steroids anyway becuz they just simply aren't capable of having the huge amount of dedication, discipline, desire and genetics that Arnie and the rest of them have.
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This is one of the most stupid threads I have ever read. OF COURSE ARNIE TOOK DRUGS (STEROIDS) I mean, really! You don't get the size of Arnie without drugs and he was on them from the age of 14. When he took them they were legal, but I can't believe anyone would ask this question in the first place.
Yes, Arnie took steroids (duh!)
(and while we're at it, the moon isn't made of cheese, in case that's the next question)
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Anabolic Steroids are simply free form testosterone which is the male sex hormone responsible for everything that make men men such as facial hair, large wide jaws, and their genitals. However, while they may not see negative side effects when taking them with the exeption of excess acne and jaw growth, after taking them, your body is overloaded with testosterone, thus your body creates more estrogen the female sex hormone. At all times you produce this, but at a much smaller pace. However, to compensate for this, you body makes too much of it, expecting that the large ammounts of unnatural testosterone will continue to be supplied. So where this is going is when people stop using steriods, their testicles decrease in size, and their breasts become developed, all signs of a male turning into a female. Moral of the story, dont mess with steroids. Yes you can take anti-estrogen pills after cyclying roids, but the validity of it is just not enough to ever warrent using steriods.
You are 100% spot on.
"You only get out what you put in"
I beg to differ. I myself am an amateur bodybuilder and am entering the Ohio NATURAL open this upcoming April 2nd. All bodybuilding competitors are required to take tests, and are only allowed to wear their posing trunks at the time of the test so nothing can be snuck in. I am proud to be all natural, and will always continue to be so.
"From Hell...well at least they got the address right."
Bull*hit! If you are trying to tell me that you have the body that Arnie had and you didn't take steroids than I'm afraid the weights you're lifting are not the only dumb bell. True you can have a great physique without them, I do, six feet four, broad shoulders, athletic body. However there is no way on earth that you are going to have a body like Arnie (when he was competing in bodybuilding) without knocking back the steriods. Bodys are simply not meant to get that big, you can't do it by natural means, and folks, I'm talking about ARNIE size, not looking good down the beach size, so before you post your pictures of yourselves in your tarzan thong, please think again. And Mr Hell Bound Angel, if you look as big as Arnie, please post a picture, than we can put it along side Arnie and compare.
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Bull*hit! If you are trying to tell me that you have the body that Arnie had and you didn't take steroids than I'm afraid the weights you're lifting are not the only dumb bell. True you can have a great physique without them, I do, six feet four, broad shoulders, athletic body. However there is no way on earth that you are going to have a body like Arnie (when he was competing in bodybuilding) without knocking back the steriods. Bodys are simply not meant to get that big, you can't do it by natural means, and folks, I'm talking about ARNIE size, not looking good down the beach size, so before you post your pictures of yourselves in your tarzan thong, please think again. And Mr Hell Bound Angel, if you look as big as Arnie, please post a picture, than we can put it along side Arnie and compare.
You are right..you cant get the size, but you can get the perfect shape.
I'm interested in natural bodybuilding, hellbound_angel do you know some good web page about that?
shareMate, you're completley lost! I am a natural bodybuilder and I have NEVER taken any sort of drugs or steriods, period! How could you say I'm not a bodybuilder? There are a lot of great natural bodybuilders out there like skip lacour and Ulyssiss Jr, c'mon mate smarten up. Of course you're going to get bigger with drugs, der....
"You only get out what you put in"
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by - riaan-joubert on Wed Jan 19 2005 03:47:48
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"Well people, as a body builder myself, I need to inform you, that there are no natural competitions, as there would be no good body builders on stage. Every body that cometes these days, do take steroids, believe me when i say that I have tried the natural way, and could not gain even a sixth of the size that i have gained by taking steroids. "
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Mate, you're completley lost! I am a natural bodybuilder and I have NEVER taken any sort of drugs or steriods, period! How could you say I'm not a bodybuilder? There are a lot of great natural bodybuilders out there like skip lacour and Ulyssiss Jr, c'mon mate smarten up. Of course you're going to get bigger with drugs, duh!
"You only get out what you put in"
*beep* I gained 17 kg, 99 to 116kg, in two years without steroïds.
Those guys in those day´s did steroïds, nowadays steroïds en much more humangrowhormones. You can see because of their teeth. The hole in between te front teeth is a result of growhormones (Lee Haney, Schwarzenegger, almost everyone. Look at their teeth). A friend of mine took growhormones (glenbuterol, STH) it and his chaw, his feet, his hands and his ears grew.
*beep* I gained 17 kg, 99 to 116kg, in two years without steroïds.
Those guys in those day´s did steroïds, nowadays steroïds en much more humangrowhormones. You can see because of their teeth. The hole in between te front teeth is a result of growhormones (Lee Haney, Schwarzenegger, almost everyone. Look at their teeth). A friend of mine took growhormones (glenbuterol, STH) it and his chaw, his feet, his hands and his ears grew.
Lol, i noticed that, im like maybe its just because they didnt have braces back in the 70's. But they all had the same teeTH.
My advices(heheh) would be *beep* steroids if you've had braces.
Well people, as a body builder myself, I need to inform you, that there are no natural competitions, as there would be no good body builders on stage. Every body that cometes these days, do take steroids, believe me when i say that I have tried the natural way, and could not gain even a sixth of the size that i have gained by taking steroids.
If you cant gain naturally then you dont deserve to be called a body builder in my eyes....Arny, Ronnie coleman, Jay cutler etc etc...these guys are genetically perfect for body buiding. Even without drugs they would be considerably huge. The fact they took/take roids just means they are genetic monsters nothing else.
Arnold looked perfect in his day. This was due to perfect training and perfect genetics...with the help of a little D-bol, I say a little because it is in stark contrast to what the Mr olympias of today take.
Back to your ridiculous comment. I am a natural body builder. I'm 26 and have never taken drugs in my life. I'm not what you would call a "skinny" guy in fact the opposite.
You say there are no good natural body builders in the world and no competitions??!!!?
What about Rob Hope?, Nigel Davis? Ye i know nobodys heard of them, which is a travesty because they get big without drugs and purely due to good Diet, good training and perfect genetics.
Your comment made me vomit in my mouth a little. Enjoy your later life with saggy tits, spotty back and tiny testes...thats not for me
For anyone who is interested in natural body buiding visit
http://www.bnbf.co.uk
Thankyou
Exactly, there are no clean bodybuilders. The human body isn't naturally made to look like arnie, it just doesnt happen.
shareWhat a moronic, absolutely moronic statement. I am an NGA pro...NATURAL PRO. There are MANY natural pros out there, just not in the IFBB. Get your facts straight.
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Well said riaan :). "Naturals" are on steroids too, all year round except for a short time during competition.
Arnold wasn't just using dianabol, although that was his favourite oral. He was using testosterone, primo, parabolan (later) and growth hormone. But that doesnt take anything away from him since everyone else was doing the same thing.
I don't like steroids in regular sport but in bodybuilding I think it's ok.
Why do u think it is ok for guys/gals to risk their health for bodybuiding? If the athletes in other sports stopped taking them the records would not break and the overall performance would decline...which would probably cause the sport to lose some of their audiences.
I think it is so sad the state that bodybuilding is in today because of the amount of drug abuse the athletes engage in. I fully understand the amount of work and discipline needed to compete at that level so I am not trying to take anything away from their hardwork. I wish that bodybuilding fans who love the mass could learn to appreciate the healthier, smaller athletes.
kudos to those athletes who train naturally and the fans that appreciate them!
someday bodybuiding can equate with being healthy.
You would need steriods to recover from a 50 set workout! If you truly push yourself hard, you need only a few sets. Beyond that, it is diminished returns.
shareI'm confused about something. Arnie said in the 25th anniversary edition of Pumping Iron that pros are asked to be tested at random times throughout the year, so they can't take steroids. Is this incorrect?
shareAnd by "experimented" you must mean, "took by the truckload". I've heard he used to take between 150-300mg of Dianabol daily - enough to kill a horse (normal, sane dosages range between 25-50mg per day). Whether it's true or not, I'm on his side. ALL competitive bodybuilders are on steroids, including a good deal of the "natural" competitors who simply take drugs with a shorter half-life so it's out of their system come contest time. It makes for a level playing field.
Aside from that, it takes an unbelievable amount of dedication and consistency with hard training and diet to achieve anything close to his body (good genetics help too, of course). Steroids just amplify what a strong training regimen and diet does to you, but doesn't replace them. So to say "Arnold only got that big because he was on steroids" is a very ignorant and unfair statement. The general public, mostly people who are unfamiliar with bodybuilding, seem to think taking steroids alone can make anybody look like Ronnie Coleman. Most Americans are out of shape and insecure and have no idea what kind of dedication is required to be a bodybuilder, so it's easy for them to just say "he only looks like that because he's on steroids". That way they can feel better about themselves.
nice to hear someone else who knows what it really takes to become a muscle monster..all to often i have to tell people thats it's not what you take..it's what you do after you take it that counts.
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Steroids are STILL perfectly legal in bodybuilding. Just not in most competitive sports. Bodybuilding still has 2 events, Normal (with steroids) and natural (without steroids). It's not illegal.
sharepopoandpeepee, you must be insane... of Course Ronnie coleman takes steroids, but they are not the illegal type. If you see his pics he has a juice gut, or what are nicknamed "pregnant abs." taking hGH, a growth hormone, will give you a larger gut, typical in all modern bodybuilding pros
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