I missed the ending of this movie when it was on our TV screens here in Norway a couple of days ago and had hoped some of you out there who have seen it could tell me a bit about it.
Does she strangle him? Does she castrate him? Does she die too? If any of them.. why do you think it came to that?
hope for answers since the deeper meaning of this movie quite fascinates me.
The whole movie is sex, yadda yadda. Towards midway point of the movie, they start doing stuff like choking each other while doing it. Eventully she's choking him half to death while they have sex, then releasing before he dies. Note that the front cover of the box has her choking the guy with a rag or something wrapped around his throat, but they digately remove it, so she's holding nothing in her hands, weird. Anyways, at the very end, she finally chokes him to death during the sex. Afterwards she's castrates him, and then they tell with on screen graphics that she wandered around Japan (or wherever) for a couple days holding his cut off "stuff" in her hands (it's a true story). And so ya know it done quite graphically and all in a closeup as she cuts off frank and then the beans. I've seen lots of gory movies from US and other countries, and nothing comes close to that ending in terms of gore. Especially, since like I said, it's in an extreme closeup of his "stuff" while she cuts it all off.
That is right... the gal cuts the guy's member off(we actually see it onscreen) while the guy is asleep... and she ends up happily ever after, cos that is what she wanted to do...
Sada wrote "Sada Kichi futari kiri". It means "Sada and Kichi, just two of us together". It's the actual writing seen on Kichizo's body when police found it, but instead of on his chest, it was on his thigh.
As for the real Sada Abe, after she was arrested in 1936, she was convicted and sentenced to 11 years in prison. But in 1940, she was granted remission and was released. She then started a new life working as an actress. She was last seen in 1970 then she disappeared and no one has ever seen or heard about her whereabouts eversince.
one of the most disturbing movie i have ever come across. any comments on why the hell did she want to cut the guys member off? what was the motive? is it because after kichi's death (i am assuming that she didnt want to kill him, but he happened to die in the ecstasy of their adventure); it was the most prized ornament she could collect? but this wont make sense cuz she had threatened to do this a number of times in the movie?
any comments on why the hell did she want to cut the guys member off?
junaids, she was in the grip of a sexual obsession. She was very very fond of that particular organ. She told him previously she wanted to cut it off so she could carry it around inside her always. Which is sort of what eventually happened (since he was dead it wasn't really a problem for him). It's not that hard to understand the psychology involved, surely? Not if you've been involved in that sort of really passionate sexual relationship, anyway....
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Dear Bakoyama, the others did explain the end of the movie, but no real hint about their view about its meaning. To me, it is simply the amazing study of how far passion and carnal pleasure can lead you. This crucial point in which your bodies become the last unreachable limit to make one with each other, and that pursuit of pleasure and carelessness that can only end in death to avoid the final disapointment. On this kind of subject, i´d recommend Claire Denis´s ´trouble every day´...But this one is very shocking too...I got really sick watching it, so be warned! ; )
There is something that I don't really understand. She strangles him while he's asleep, not while they have sex... He asks her to do this, but why? I don't get it...
Because throughout the movie their worlds become increasinly defined by each other, and their sexual relationship. When they start partaking in autoerotic asphyxiation (AEA), this is the [almost] complete realisation of this development. That is, the concept that death, as well as life, ought to be intimitely entwined in their sexual relationship. The fact that he wanted to be strangled in his sleep is his succumbing to the limits of the relationship - he doesn't want her to kill him 'against his will' [natural defense mechanism, also why he is tied up after the first AEA w/a rope attempt], because this would subvert the very 'point' of the process.
To completely give himself to her/their relationship he has to be killed willingly, and for this to happen, he can't be conscious. That this is the motivation is ~also~ why she has to give him the amateur surgery at the end.
All in all, this is a great response to the question "why don't you want to take this to the next level?". ;)