Will the Criterion release be Uncut?
Will it contain the scene involving oral sex and semen?
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Yes it is.
It even features the notorious scene (in the States it's notorious,that is), involving the kids.
And it even has some deleted scenes.
Great. It's been a while since I've seen this. The copy I saw had that notorious scene with the kid but I don't recall if it had that other scene. Hope to pick this up soon. Should be interesting.
shareWell, this Criterion version definitely does have the oral sex scene, with the semen shot.
This version, along with its deleted scenes and so on, is probably the most complete version yet. And it looks gorgeous,too.
Not only does the Criterion have the oral sex/semen shot, it's even alluded to in its cover art. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B001PYD0LQ/
But that scene was in the Fox/Lorber edition too, though.
I don't remember the "scene with the kids" at all.
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Yeah the scene with kids was previously cut from all US prints.
Otherwise, the film has always been pretty much uncut in the US.
I had the old Fox Lorber VHS tape from the early 90s, and even it is missing the child scene. It had everything else,though.
For those who don't know, the scene I'm referring to is a 56 second sequence where the female Sada character is playfully chasing around two completely naked young children (probably four or five year olds). They are giggling, and it is all very playful. Then, Sada suddenly gets all entranced and serious looking, then grabs the young boy by his penis and scrotal sack. He yells out, "Ouch, that hurts! That hurts!" He starts to cry and look back at the little girl, who is watching and confused. Then, it cuts away to the next scene.
In all previous US versions, it cut from the scene right before this to the scene directly after it. I suppose the US distributors were always weary of this sequence for the obvious reasons. But, as usual, Criterion has really gone out on a limb here, and included it. I hope they don't get heat later for it.
I think Criterion could withstand whatever heat thrown its way. The company's made its reputation for uncut, uncensored films -- think of the controversy over its release of SWEET MOVIE (though Facets Video released it years beforehand, with a little bit of the same controversy).
Then again, they missed a scene of SALO that the BFI edition has, so.
Nevertheless, they really are a plucky set of staunch characters!
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Indeed.
Criterion releases the most controversial films in history.
"Salo", "Sweet Movie", "In the Realm of the Senses", "The Last Temptation of Christ", "Do the Right Thing", etc.,etc.
Which scene in SALO did the Criterion version left out ?
shareThe "alternate versions" list for SALO describe it thus:
The Criterion DVD omits a short 25-second sequence during the first wedding ceremony, where one of the masters quotes a poem by Gottfried Benn. The sequence is intact on the R2 BFI DVD.
Criterion discusses the scene, and posts a video from the BFI edition, here:
http://www.criterion.com/current/posts/711
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What did Criterion miss on Salo? They also distribute, unfortunately, a cut version of Kwaidan.
Go to Criterion and ask them to work on Satyajit Ray films, a good Kwaidan rerelease.
I have a Fox\Lorber realese DVD which is 98 min in NTSC format and includes kid secne that filmscholar35 refered to.
Timing : from 54:18 to 55:12
Really? Well, they must have restored that for the Fox Lorber DVD.
The previously available Fox Lorber vhs, which is what I had, and previous US theatrical versions, were missing that scene.