The miniseries is great and often surprisingly faithful to Roman sources, but on this particular point, the explanation of the program (and the novel) is a little off the wall--that Claudius was a fatalist who believed Nero was simply destined to rule and destroy the autocracy.
Modern authors seem to think that he needed to have an "adult" heir until Britannicus grew up, but would a boy two or three years older really have made much of a difference in the end? (Also, there were other more suitable "adult" heirs in terms of distant cousins that Claudius could have turned to until Britannicus grew up). Why didn't Claudius look to the example of the cases of Postumus/Tiberius and Gemellus/Caligula and realize he was sentencing Britannicus to death by advancing Nero?
Interesting points. While I am a big fan of the series, I am not a serious student of the era, so I will comment on the series.
We see that Claudius is a big believer in the prophecies of the Sybil. The Sybil predicted his own rise to power. So he did think that it was fate that Nero would succeed him, and there was nothing to be done, except use Britannicus as his "instrument" (as Claudius put it) to overthrow Nero and restore the republic.
>Perhaps he doubted Britannicus's paternity --He said so. He told Britannicus that he thought Caligula his biological father.
>Why didn't Claudius look to the example of the cases of Postumus/Tiberius and Gemellus/Caligula and realize he was sentencing Britannicus to death by advancing Nero?
Again, because he believed it was foretold, and because he thought he had a fool-proof plan to smuggle Britannicus out of Italy to Scotland. Britannicus would eventually return to Rome and restore the republic. Of course this plan fails because Britannicus wants no part of it. "I'm not going to paint my face blue!," he says, but maybe he would have thought it was cool if he had seen "Braveheart." :)
So many of Claudius' contradictory-appearing actions seemed to be intended to inflame the populace into overthrowing the Imperium and restoring the Republic.
I believe his expectation of such a revolt happening soon was the reason that Claudius named Nero as his successor and tried to send his real son Britannicus* to the farthest reaches of the Empire. — To keep him safe since such a revolt would most likely have run amok just as the French Revolution did 1700 years later and claim the lives of anyone and everyone who was in any way connected with the ruling class.
— But that's just my take on it.
*** Sic transit gloria mundi, sometimes Tuesday is worse. ***
* Yes. Claudius did admit to Britannicus that for some time he doubted the boy's parentage, but he further told him that he no longer harbored such doubts and he wanted to keep him safe from all the intrigue, double-dealing, murder, and such.
In the in universe of the series, Claudius wanted to let "all the poisons lurking in the mud hatch out", meaning that he knew what kind of monster Nero was, and he wanted to re-induce the hate the common people and aristocracy had towards the Caesars, thus leading to a re-establishment of the Republic.
In real life, of course, any republican ideas were long dead by the mid 1st century. The Republic died when Julius Caesar took command of Rome and became almost a monarch. The civil war that ensued, between his assassins and descendants, and later between Octavian and Mark Anthony was a struggle between men fighting for the throne, certainly not between republican factions. The truth is, the Republic could work well when Rome was a city-state, and when it covered Italy. But as soon as its power expanded over the Mediterranean, great wealth was accumulated and with it came great ambitions for power. A huge country can hardly be governed in a democratic fashion even in the 21st, let alone 1st century.
Which leads us back to the real Claudius. He adopted Nero as a way of strengthening his ties to the Julian tree( being a pure Claudian himself). Both Nero and his mother were hugely popular with the people, being the only surviving relatives of the God Augusts, so admitting them into his family was an attempt at a reputation fix after the whole Messalina catastrophe. He also needed an adult son, since he was getting very old, and his biological son was a little boy, so that left his family vulnerable. It is true that Nero was only 4 years older then Germanicus, but in ancient Roman eyes, he was nearing 14 at the time of the adoption and was about to become a man, while his own son was only 9-10 at the time and still had a long way to go. Turning to the husbands of his older daughter, Claudia Antonia, was not an option, since the first one Claudius executed himself for dishonoring his daughter after being discovered in bed with a guy(but really because Messalina had manipulated him into doing so), and the second one was the brother of the hated Messalina herself.
Claudius also pushed Brittanicus aside as a sort of post-mortem middle finger to his treacherous mother. However, towards the end of his life, he came to regret that decision, perhaps after seeing what monsters Nero and his mother Agrippina really are. However, by the mid 50s, the pair had grown too powerful and had too many friends to just be pushed aside without it resulting in a civil war or at least a Sejanus- like mass execution, and the emperor had gotten pretty old, so unfortunately, there was little he could do.
It's a shame Rome was such a male-dominated society. Both Claudia Antonia and Claudia Ocatvia, the daughters of Claudius, seem like they would have made decent rulers.
Truth be told, Mr. Graves novel and this series are extremely faithful to the original Roman texts, now some things were a little off( the number of people Livia killed and the part of the character of Augusts), and a few of the characters were missing( Claudius' first son Drusillus who choked on a pear on his wedding day and most notably Claudia Antonia) but altogether those are minute mistakes.
This series certainly shows more or less how things really did happen in history, and captures the nature of these historical figures extremely accurately.
The only episode that isn't really en par with history is the last one.
Thats exactly it. Claudius hoped to restore democracy by totaly corrupting the emperorship. Half way through his reign he realized that by being a good emperor he was simply strenghtening the instituion he hated. His son would have made a good emperor and defeated his plans. Nero was the worst candidate he could find and hence his choice. In his vision as he lies dying he learns of his mistake.
That sounds weird though. As much as Claudius might have wanted a new republic, he must have realised that those times were long gone by that point. He should have done everything to keep Nero away from power, no matter what the Sybil might have said. Claudius couldn't even be sure, that people would restore the republic after they had gotten rid of Nero. As a matter of fact, Rome had one emperor after another for four hundred years after Nero was gone. And he really put Britannicus in danger. Such a stupid plan from an otherwise intelligent man!
Yes, it's weird, but such denial and blindness is still realistic and natural behavior. Claudius thought Nero's reign would ruin monarchial rule for Rome, leading to the return of the Republic. He is blind to understand that times have changed too much for a republican restoration. Furthermore, he was naive to the dangers of republican rule, which led to many civil wars in Rome (Livia lost a father to such conflicts). Also, one has to understand how deeply religiously fatalist Claudius is at the end of the story. If the Sybil predicted that he would be murdered and Nero the next emperor and reign violently, then in Claudius' POV, there is no choice but to accept it happening. Aside from it being blasphemous to change fate designed by the Gods, any attempt could backfire and ensure the prophecy come true. One historical account has Claudius decide to remove Nero from the succession, only to be poisoned before action was made. In the novel, Caligula was warned by a prophecy that A Cassius would kill him. So, Caligula executed Cassius the descendant of the Caesar conspirator/assassin. He didn't realize the premonition was for Cassius CHAREA his bodyguard. Still, Claudius did hope that fate would spare Britannicus. The Sybil predicted that no Claudians would follow Nero, which to Claudius can be interpreted as either (A) Nero killed them all or (B) No Claudian wanted the throne. Claudius hoped the latter was the answer, motivating him to get his son out of Italy. However, Britannicus' refusal to leave doomed him.
Thank you for your great post. Yeah, maybe what Claudius did is understandable after all, when you consider the circumstances. And furthermore, Britannicus was in danger, no matter what Claudius did. Agrippina and Nero would never let him live, if they could have him killed.
Claudius is not a fatalist -- he's very much an activist. He simply knows that Nero is destined to succeed him (per the Sybil's prophecy, and the Sybil was right about everything else, even the most preposterous things), and he wants to keep Britannicus's life safe so that he will someday return to Rome and restore the Republic after the populace is sick of the demented Nero. Claudius says this over and over and over -- I don't know how you could possibly miss it. .
The Sybil ordained Nero's ascension. Claudius could not change it.
Yes but what would have happened if Claudius at the last moment (especially after Brittanicus rejected his plan) had exactly this thoughts: "My son is doomed. Nero will kill him after he becomes emperor, just like Caligula killed Gemellus. And Sybil predicted Nero's reign after mine so I can't do anything here. Sybil is never wrong. What is written is written. But you know what ? "Beep" these prophecies and stories of fate ! I will try to save Brittanicus' life. I'll told Narcissus to find something against Agrippinila and Nero (treason or whataver...) and when this is announced in the senate I'll order their execution, no matter how unpopular it would seem. I mean, in the past 80 years many innocent, brave people died from unnatural death so who cares about two rotten apples. I am already inured to things like that. Now it is only important to me to save my innocent son. What can I lose by doing this, anyway ?"
How exactly "what is written is written" fate would respond to Claudius' challenge ? Heart attack before he and Narcissus implement their plan into action ?
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I seem to recall one of the historical accounts had Claudius regretting his decision to have Nero succeed him, and tried to change things in Britannicus' favour, only for his wife to poison him before anything could happen. Graves actually added this text (and several other accounts) at the end of his book.
Yes...that was Cassius Dio, I think. Other two were Tacitus and Suetonius.
But if we only look at the series I was little disappointed with Claudius at the end. Of course, his passivity and fatalism can be explained by the fact that he had a hidden plan to save his son who will restore republic in the future. But when Britannicus rejected this and told him that nobody believes in the republic anymore, it seems that Claudius didn't care for anything after that. He just let fate and waited to die, the sooner the better. And he knew that his son is basically a dead man and Rome is left at the mercy of Agrippinilla and Nero (very depressing outcome after all his struggles in his life). Why didn't he just tried to do something (especially if if we know that he wasn't superstitious as other emperors but more man of science)? What he could lose at that point ?
I would think Claudius had some religious beliefs. When Xenophan was examining him, he asked if there was a prayer to be recommended. He certainly believed enough in the Sybilline verses that Nero would kill his mother, finish the Julio-Claudian hold on the throne, and his own writings be one day read for posterity. At any rate, Claudius had received a final blow. Messalina's death and betrayal had already left a big hole in him, and this, his final hope of a public achievement- the restoration of the Republic- has been rejected by his own son, with his own realization that such a value is hopeless and extinct at this new era. It is something to get depressed about for a good period of time (his only drive left was to finish that memoir, have that piece copied and joined with the rest of his secret autobiography copy). If Claudius was younger, or time was on his side, he might have gotten over it to make a change. But in the first case, Claudius was sixty (an old age in that period), too set in his ways to learn any new tricks and too wounded by earlier failures to think 'tomorrow is just another day' anymore. I suppose it's hard for us younger folk to understand that. In the second case, it was too late. At this point, Claudius realized his time was numbered (his goodbye to the Senate). The majority of Rome was probably under Team Agrippinilla, with loyalists harder to find than it was during the Messalina coup. Agrippinilla wasn't taking too many chances now, confused by Claudius' passivity in rising her son and remembering Sejanus' rise and sudden fall. Any plan against her would have led to that Dio Cassius passage I mentioned earlier.
All good points and I agree about Team Agrippinilla taking full spread in centers of power at that point. Funny, in one documentary some historian compared popularity of young Nero with that of young Elvis Presley in 1950s (I guess Britannicus was still relatively anonymous Paul McCartney in 54 AD )
It should be pointed out that the novel/miniseries is excessively favorable in its depiction of Claudius. The ancient sources depict him as easily manipulated, especially by women. The novel and miniseries are essentially posing a bit of a counterfactual -- what if Claudius wasn't fooled by Agrippinilla, but instead consciously pushed aside Brittanicus and adopted Nero as part of a plan to restore the Republic?
But the historical evidence suggests that Claudius really just wanted a pureblood Julio-Claudian to succeed him, and resented Brittanicus' questionable lineage -- upon realizing that Nero was a bad apple, he considered making Brittanicus his heir, and then found himself poisoned by his wife before Brittanicus could reach adulthood.
I suppose the historical Claudius wanted to please Agrippinilla so he made Nero his heir. At least for the moment. Once Britannicus was of legal age he could change his mind. Some believe this is why he was poisoned by Agrippinilla. The last part has never been proven since Claudius was a heavy drinker and that probably shortened his life, as well as the disability he lived with.
It's also possible that Claudius thought he could have a leverage on Agrippinilla since the moment Nero knew he was heir he wouldn't have to listen to his mother any more. In real history Nero had Agrippinilla killed so I imagine he was never fond of her. Claudius probably knew this and may have tried to make Nero work for him as an unknowing pawn. Just remember that Claudius was emperor and to be in good standing with the emperor surely was much more desirable for Nero than to please his mother, who he probably knew might go the same way Messalina did. Yes, the historical Claudius could be brutal too and had people executed.
Once Nero was emperor the historical Aggrippinilla realized she had been duped by her son (or abandoned) so she sided with Britannicus in order to get him to become emperor. Chances are she loathed her son already (she apparently asked the centurion that came to kill her to stab her in her womb because that had given birth to her horrible son) so she tried to rule through Britannicus instead, who at this time was joint heir with Nero. Nero was ahead of her and had Britannicus poisoned, and if one is to believe the legend he nearly poisoned future emperor Titus in the process (Titus was a friend of Britannicus')since he reportedly tasted the same poisoned dish.
Remember that the historical account of Claudius is by biased historians who probably sought to make the previous dynasty appear deranged compared to the present one. Robert Graves, as a historian, knew this all too well and actually had a dream in which Claudius talked to him and urged him to tell the "true story" about him. So while Graves took artistic liberties in his portrayal of Claudius so did Suetonius and Tacitus. Both of which lived long after Claudius was dead.
As for the Claudius in Pulman's version of him.
In "I, Claudius" the tv series the Sybil never tells Claudius the whole story until he has died. While Claudius knew Nero was destined to become emperor he knew nothing of who was to succeed him and assumed the empire would die with the imperial family so Nero would be the last emperor of Rome.
Had he known more of Sybil's prophecy he would have to have his consul Vespasian and his two sons Titus and Domitian killed as well since they were destined to become emperors in the Flavian dynasty. Future emperor Nerva was a young man during Claudius' reign and Trajan had just been born in Cladius's last year as an emperor. So in order for Claudius plan of ending imperial Rome he must just know that Nero will be the next(and last) emperor.
As Claudius said in the series:"What is said about us in our lives is not always what history says, and doubtless history will always have its say as it always does." Graves implies that the historical records of Claudius are wrong and that his novel is based on Claudius' book which was secretly buried for people of the 20'th Century to read the true story of the Julio-Claudian dynasty.