marilyn monroe


Hopefully im not the only person that doesn't get this, but what was with the church of mayilyn monroe?

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I think you are totally onbase, bradster! It was a commentary on how pop icons have become the new messiahs. And, of course, her fate was a bit of a foreshadowing of what would await Tommy as he developed a following.

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Yes, bradster nailed it.

It may also be worth noting that the falling statue foreshadows and represents what happens to Tommy at the end of the film: he becomes a fallen idol himself, just like the Marilyn statue crashing to the ground. Such a brilliant film.

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Absolutely. The music, costumes and direction of "Tommy" are excellent, but the film also provides a biting commentary about the dangers of idol worship that are relevant today -- perhaps even more so, in fact. I love this film.

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Too bad they had to smash the statue. It would make a great novelty memorbillia to a Monroe fan (albeit very expensive).

The communion is a spoof (a bad one and an insult to this Catholic) to the way communion used to be done with the rail and all. But then again, The Who had to be paying attention on how it was properly done in the first place.

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The Marilyn Monroe statue certainly would have been worth a lot had it not been smashed, but on the other hand, had it not been smashed, that scene wouldn't have been as memorable.

I know Catholics take offense to things like the Communion scene, but in this case -- as with the whole film -- the point was that we live in a culture that worships false idols, in this case a pop star. So it's taking a precious symbol -- the Eucharist -- but substituting fame for Jesus. I know the Vatican would call the use of the Communion wafer blasphemous, but it seems like the Vatican would also agree with the sentiment, if not the approach.

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Don't take it as an insult..I loved that scene....The communion part fit in perfect..

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I must say I only somewhat agree. I thought it more of a commentary on how Jesus and other so-called prophets are the new pop-icons. In today's society true prophets and pop icons are no different except you can't argue about prophets. It seems to me though that religion has become very commercial, aand that was the point of the movie. That's why it had all these stars around Tommy giving it a commercial feeling.

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HOPE not! yeah that was a Crazy scene probably not in the original musical. Ken Russell did weird stuff. I remember they put it on in my JHS in 1973 and I just saw the movie DVD last night. Tina Turner was GREAT as The Acid Queen! Maybe a bit racial that she was a stripper/pusher and virtually chemically Crucified Tommy.

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I may be totally offbase, but that's what I always thought The Preacher/Clapton and Monroe sequence meant in correlation to Tommy, and idolatry, which I think is the primary theme of the film. - bradster67

Agree with the consensus: You are onbase. That is how I interpreted the imagery from the first time I saw the film.

The film's version of "Eyesight to the Blind" (which on the original album is the only song not written by someone in the band) is the only song whose film version I prefer to the one on the original album. And as a teenager, seeing Clapton and Entwistle clutching their respective axes as they flanked Arthur Brown looked really cool. Maybe not so much now, but at the time I thought, "rock and roll!"

Of course, now my standard summation of Tommy in any form is: It's Helen Keller meets Hermann Hesse in Jimmy Swaggart's Disneyland.
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I love Tommy. My uncle was one of the disabled who touched Marylin Monroe and he was thrilled to be in it.

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Wow, lornaross, no kidding - your uncle was in the film? That's wild! What does he look like, what was he wearing, and what exactly does he do? I'll watch for him next time I see the film! Did he get to meet any of the stars?

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That's great for him. Please tell us where we can spot him and if he got to meet any of the cast.

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I should also note that Marilyn has been called a "love goddess" and "sex goddess," and in her lifetime she was referred to as "the mortal goddess." Also, at least one of her biographies is entitled GODDESS, so that may have played into the whole religious cult worshipping Marilyn as a goddess in the film.

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The reality of how this idea came to Russell was on one of many trips to Russia he ventured into a church not expecting anything abnormal. what he found as their alter center piece was a mini sputnick. Their God was a sputnick. When Tommy came along Marilyn as a god, Why Not.

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Sadly he died not long after the film. My uncle had Muscular Dystrophy which is still incurable.
He is only in it very briefly going past the Monroe statue. They came to his special school to ask for extras, he was filmed more but was only in it for a few seconds in the edit.
He is at 9.08 going off to the left of the screen and also again on 9.15 going off to the left of the screen in a grey jumper with mid length hair on this part of the film-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nv2_0m1CjA





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At the time the film was released, Russell took some heat for using disabled people in that scene. It was thought to be disrespectful, or something. I've alway thought that people who bitch about things like that are really expressing there own discomfort when faced with people who are (in any way) different. I think the sequence where the people touch the statue as they pass is actually moving. The sequence is beautiful and wouldn't have been otherwise. What amazes me about the film is how emotionally it hits me when I see it. Russell's imagery, often referred to as merely excessive, is never arbitrary. Those images are picked to tell a story that has an emotional impact.

Thanks for sharing the story about your uncle.

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Celebrity worship, especially Monroe who died young, making a mystery of what her career would have been like. Monroe is supposed to be America's ideal of a 'sex goddess' (she ain't mine) and her persona was a creation much more than a fact but it still blew people away wanting to be like her, with her, married to her, etc. She was iconic enough for Andy Wharhol to make his famous silk screen of Monroe.

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Just your average '70s wacky pseudo-critical commentary. I suspect they all filmmakers had a reference book of this nature at the time...

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