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The Women in Rollerball


I just saw Rollerball for the first time this weekend and I had some questions that I hoped someone on the board could answer. I read over the whole board and I didn't find any similiar discussions so forgive me if some of these questions have come up before.

My main question is what is up with the women in this movie? It appears that all the women (save maybe the library desk clerk) are high class hookers of some sort. All the women seem to be handed from one man to another as the all-powerful Energy Corporation determines best. What was the movie trying to say about the place of women in the future?

Looking at the situations one by one as the main women are involved with Jonathan:

1. Ella - she is Jonathan's wife but she is given to an executive of the Corporation because he wants her. Is she supposed to be a free women or just a high class call girl? Does she have free will? Does she love Jonathan? She does seem to be the only woman Jonathan cares for but his feelings seem to disappear quickly when he feels she came to see him just to spout the company line about his retirement(which doesn't seem to be completely true as she seems to be truly concerned for his safety under the new Rollerball rules).

2. Maggie (or Mackie as IMDB lists her)- She and her situation seem truly a mystery to me. She gets basically an eviction notice from Energy Corporation and she seems to be very upset about this while Jonathan acts as if he has just been told that a rarely seen employee of his is about to be replaced. He remarks that she "knew it was coming" and that he had "heard something about" the order for her to leave. What is her relationship to him? Is she his girlfriend? His assistant/secretary? Why would she be told to leave? Why would she know it was coming?

3. Daphne - I can't figure out who she is and why she is able to show up to Jonathan's house. I also wonder if she is a hooker hired by the Corporation. She apparently is a spy placed in his home by the Corporation but I just wonder why Jonathan voices suspicions of her motives. I guess I should say why does he act like there is any doubt that she has ulterior motives because she obviously isn't there with him because she likes him or even because he likes her. In fact he acts like he can barely tolerate her and doesn't find her attractive ("You look really terrible"). When he does voice his suspicions one thing he mentions is that she doesn't seem to care what he does or with who ("I am with a lot of girls but you know that. Never seem to mind though"). If he didn't realize she was there to spy when she showed up then why did he think she was there? As with Maggie, was she supposed to be an assistant/ secretary or a girlfriend?

Finally, I guess thinking about his relationships with Maggie and Daphne, does he have some kind of deal with the corportation to get a new girl every few months like some executives get a new company car every few months? Is that what is going on there?

Sorry to make such a long post but these questions have going through my mind since watching the movie. I know there are issues about society, violence, and sports being explored in Rollerball but I was just wanting some clarification and discussion about the women and their role in the Rollerball society.

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Hey there, congrats on seeing this for the first time! Rollerball is one of my favorites, but I too shared some initial confusion in regard to the women portrayed.

I was always under the impression that these women were either sport's groupies/escorts/prostitutes (as you've mentioned), supplied to the players as 'companions.' I had wondered whether Ella was also a prostitute (since Jonathan E had married her). But she too ended up being removed by the Corporation and then 'placed' with an executive that wanted her (also from the Corporation).

They then sent him Mackie (who loved Jonathan), but he could never find his love for her since he was still so much in love with and grieving over Ella. Then Mackie is taken away and sent to another executive (seen later at the party), which is when the snake Daphne is sent in to try and coerce Jonathan into retirement. I don't know if this answers any of your questions, but that's all I have until someone tells me more. :)

Rollerball is a futuristic tale, a bit similar to 'The Handmaid's Tale' where women are supplied or offered as hors d'oeuvres, entertainment, or to save the planet from extinction (although not in the case of Rollerball). I've always found these alternate takes on female 'worth' to be quite interesting.




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Nova, thanks for your reply! I was glad to see that someone else has thought about the women's roles in the movie.

Your take on the Jonathan's women's situation is what I had pretty much been thinking. It is obvious that women were just objects to be passed around. I guess it isn't clear whether they were actual protitutes or whether all women are treated this way in a futuristic society.

I am with you in that I find the view of the female in a lot of these types of movies interesting.

BTW, I didn't make it clear in the first post but I really enjoyed Rollerball.

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I forgot which woman was which. Who was the one in the begining who just walked out and said she was going to Indianapolis, then doesn't show up again until the cocktail party?

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The woman you are talking about was Mackie. (On my close caption she was called "Maggie" but imdb cast list calls her "Mackie"). She was the one who was apparently living with Jonathan but received a notice from the Energy Corporation telling her to get lost. Jonathan said that she "knew it was coming" but that she should make him and Cletus something to eat and that they would talk about her being kicked out later. I guess she got sick of situation being ignored during dinner so she walked out saying she was going to Indianapolis.

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I didn't make it clear in the first post but I really enjoyed Rollerball.


Hey again! It's a brilliant film indeed.


I just wanted to reiterate that I very much appreciate your post on the women of Rollerball, as these ladies are not often discussed.




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Nova, glad you enjoyed the post! I was hoping the people on the board would be interested in a discussion of the women's role in this movie, which I thought was rather bizarre. I have many questions about the women in this movie and would love hear more opinions on it.

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Yes! It is pretty neat to think about how a movie can be out for a long time so it's old news to most people but to someone who recently saw it for the first time it's a new find.

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I haven't seen the remake and do not plan to. I hadn't even heard of the remake until I read this board so I know that it has to be pretty bad. I think the original is good and I hate the trend that Hollywood has of remaking everything. I find that only the remake rarely equals, much less outdoes, the original.

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Sloppiest movie ever!


Thank goodness I avoided this. I remember being highly incensed when hearing rumors of yet another remake of a classic film, which ended up exactly as many of us expected it to be--crap.

The only good thing is that some viewers might have sought out the original after realizing they were watching a remake.





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Karlrobert Kreiten--http://tinyurl.com/n938vj

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All the beautiful women in the film are indeed objectified, serving their place in the state-corporate machinery as partners to powerful men. But men are treated similarly, Jonathan himself is serving the role given to him, until he refuses to retire.
And one of the Executive Directors is a woman, so I think it's wrong to say the film portrays a society where women are relegated to mere sex objects.



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This society depends on crushing individualism and most of the people portrayed in the movie are total sell outs to the corporation. In return for their free will, they get comfort and privilege. For some of the women, this entails becoming a literal type of prostitute.

It seems obvious to me that all the young, pretty women in the movie are employees of the corporation and their jobs are to be companions to the male executives or top Rollerball players or whomever else the company wants to keep happy and compliant. Sex, friendship, and light housekeeping are part of the gig. I would assume these young women opted for this type of life and are generally treated well, unlike the apartment prostitutes in "Soylent Green." I thought the etiquette of the party was interesting - Jonathan's buddy comes on to the women discreetly; there are drugs but no out of control behavior; there's affection, but no open sexuality. No sordid behavior at parties, please. You get the impression that abusive behavior to the women would not be tolerated - they are the picks of the litter and the company does not want their prettiness or good natures spoiled.

The women get passed around as it suits the company. Having these women available to you is just another corporate perk. Judging from Maggie, however, some may hold out hope of actually marrying a bigwig before they age out of the job, or at least being invited to stay with them in a committed relationship and perhaps having children with them. They can still be made to leave this relationship, and their children, if it suits the company.

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This society depends on crushing individualism and most of the people portrayed in the movie are total sell outs to the corporation. In return for their free will, they get comfort and privilege. For some of the women, this entails becoming a literal type of prostitute.

It seems obvious to me that all the young, pretty women in the movie are employees of the corporation and their jobs are to be companions to the male executives or top Rollerball players or whomever else the company wants to keep happy and compliant. Sex, friendship, and light housekeeping are part of the gig. I would assume these young women opted for this type of life and are generally treated well, unlike the apartment prostitutes in "Soylent Green." I thought the etiquette of the party was interesting - Jonathan's buddy comes on to the women discreetly; there are drugs but no out of control behavior; there's affection, but no open sexuality. No sordid behavior at parties, please. You get the impression that abusive behavior to the women would not be tolerated - they are the picks of the litter and the company does not want their prettiness or good natures spoiled.

The women get passed around as it suits the company. Having these women available to you is just another corporate perk. Judging from Maggie, however, some may hold out hope of actually marrying a bigwig before they age out of the job, or at least being invited to stay with them in a committed relationship and perhaps having children with them. They can still be made to leave this relationship, and their children, if it suits the company.


That is a great bit of commentary westy! I agree on all counts.

Good call on mentioning the 'apartment prostitutes' of Soylent Green, very similar indeed. But it appeared that one could do as they wished to those girls, whatever that might be.





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Many movies are written by men who have little idea how to write female characters. They are seldomly three dimensional. They are usually glorified props. They are not main characters. They are just wives, girlfriends or moms.

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Many movies are written by men who have little idea how to write female characters. They are seldomly three dimensional. They are usually glorified props. They are not main characters. They are just wives, girlfriends or moms.


Sorry to break it to you but that's a pretty accurate description of 99% of women.

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Many movies are written by men who have little idea how to write female characters. They are seldomly three dimensional. They are usually glorified props. They are not main characters. They are just wives, girlfriends or moms.



Sorry to break it to you but that's a pretty accurate description of 99% of women.


To quote community "this may shock you but i come from a long line of brides and mothers"

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So you're saying that 99% of women aren't three dimensional human beings? Seriously?

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A big hint is given when Jonathan and Ella are reunited.

She says to him "We have furniture a lot like yours" (speaking of her new life with the executive she was "given" to after being taken from Jonathan).

His response "Same taste in furniture... how about that?".

She then reflects on the gravity underlying what he has said. I don't think he was trying to make an analogy, but she seemed to connect it for herself.

She was no more than an object to the executive, just like their furniture. The executive saw her, wanted her, and due to his station in life he was able to command having her. His taste in women was just like Jonathan's, and he (the executive) picked her out and "ordered" her no differently than ordering a chair from a catalog.

I find it odd that no one ever seems to comment on this simple, yet powerfully important, line.

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Yes, but the kind of women we are talking about are prostitutes. We saw the regular women, the underclasses, in the game audience shots.

Obviously Ella and the rest of her kind are complicit in the prostitution. Ella after all agreed to stay with the executive and they had children. I strongly suspect they met at one of those sports parties Jonathan and his team attended. They had an affair and she agreed to the separation. No one ever consulted Jonathan because he is also just a piece of furniture.

The only people that matter are the executives.

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I saw this film ten years ago and i got it like the women are just objects in the dystopic world of Rollerball

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Seems that this movie copied from Soylent Green's "Furniture Girls"! How original!

Out of all the women, I like Maggie the best. She seemed so unassuming and low-maintenance, but of course left Jonathan on a whim. But they reunited at the cocktail party and had a nice conversation. Daphne was a little strange and bubble-headed to have been that interesting. And as for Jonathan's wife, she seemed like a fine lady, but rather passive and powerless.

I would have liked to have seen him get it on with that library tech! She was so nice and polite to him and downright beautiful, but he dismisses her!

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The women we see are definitely a subset. You have lower class women in the audience and one woman was a member of the Board of Directors. Unless she was sleeping her way to the top (doubtful by the look of things) she clearly wasn't a prostitute. So it wasn't that all women were relegated to being companion animals for the star athlete and the executives, just some were.

But really the whole point of the ex wife storyline was so they could illustrate how executives own absolutely everything. If an executive wanted the wife of a regular person, he could just take her. And there wasn't anything anybody could do about it, including Jonathan E.

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After 40 years, I just noticed there were no female Rollerball players (at least on the teams we see play) Is there a female league like the WNBA? There were females in the godawful remake, which I pretend doesn't exist!
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