Ok, I see that a lot of people believe that this is a pro-abortion film. But I took it to be the opposite. I saw a baby that was unwanted and people wanted dead. But it only killed in self-defense. There was no justification for killing it. Before it died, it captured the heart of its father and changed him. In the sequels, he fights the society that would kill an unwanted infant. Did I get the message of this film wrong?
sharei wouldnt of thought about it i would of just killed it
Alex Frost-So foul and fair a day I have not seen
Like me on abortion -It's the ultimate fencesitter on the subject. I think abortion for birth control is abhorant. But for rape, incest, life threatening issues, I'm more liberal on the issue, besides, I'm a guy, I can't get pregnant. The movie takes both sides. I doubt with today's technology, if the movies preposterious premise were to happen, this thing would not get past the first prenatal check up.
Any thoughts?
Like me on abortion -It's the ultimate fencesitter on the subject. I think abortion for birth control is abhorant. But for rape, incest, life threatening issues, I'm more liberal on the issue, besides, I'm a guy, I can't get pregnant. The movie takes both sides. I doubt with today's technology, if the movies preposterious premise were to happen, this thing would not get past the first prenatal check up.
Actually, you can, and he did.
shareYep, he can say it. And I can say it, and will continue to. . .
shareI thought the only discussion on abortion was a very brief conversation with the Dr. when he (and its been a while since I've seen this movie, so forgive me if its not exactly verbatum) asked "I understand you discussed the possiblity of abortion when you found out about this pregnancy". The parents replied , "Of course, it was just a matter of convenience". I'd just always assumed this was to cover the subject of the parents not suspecting there might be something wrong with the baby. My guess was the "matter of convenience" part was the filmmaker's opinion, at least at the time.... or maybe they were also trying to get the feminist viewers behind them? Not sure. Oh, well, and then there's Maude. (hands up if you get the reference, old-timers like me)
Teehee, somebody is probably going to try to have this discussion stopped, but, hey, whats wrong with a little controversial topic amongst movie fans?
Oh, were we supposed to throw our own hat in the ring on this one? Ok, I'm strongly anti-abortion, but certainly not one of those Bible-waving, anti-gay, women-are-inferior, celebacy(sp?)-is-the-only-acceptable-form-of-birth-control types. I also don't think flinging laws at people involving healthcare is a good idea. Prevention, in my opinion, through good education and easier access to birth control would go a long way. (I was actually kicked out of the local pro-life group because they said I was a "neo-socialist liberal"). I think even if I were hard-core pro-choice, I probably wouldn't attempt to abort an It's Alive baby, for fear of the battle that would rage inside my uterus, given the fetus had claws, fangs, and an incredible sense of self-preservation.
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Abortion as birth control is pretty sick in the psychological sense, but there's no human rights ethics to consider, it's just an unfeeling, unconscious blob of genetic pre-life.
A question: you say it's sick in the psychological sense, then turn and say there's no human rights ethics to consider. Why is it sick then, to you? If there's no human rights issue, what makes it sick?
When you terminate the pregnancy you are preventing the life from materializing, not killing an existing life.
Well, technically, a fetus is alive. A bunch of cells dividing is alive. It might not be CONSCIOUS in the sense that you and I are, but it is a living thing. It's certainly not a dead thing unless you abort it or it miscarries.
Any thoughts otherwise are irrational and unscientific,
Prove that, please. I mean, science hasn't exactly proved or disproved the existence of humans (or other creatures) having immortal souls.
and they come from religious dogma and other oversensitive sentimental means of manipulation over large groups of people.Larry Cohen is not a right to lifer, you're hard pressed to find any serious or thoughtful person who honestly thinks that way.
Wow, thanks for tarring a HUGE and DIVERSE group of people with a very wide brush. Would you be irritated if an anti-abortion person did that to your side? That's an ad hominem attack to try to make your opponents look stupid. It is completely baseless and bears no serious weight.
The only real dilemma with abortion is the economical strain, the abuse of a very important public service.
But by your own account you said it was an ending of a potential life (I happen to disagree with your terminology, but never mind that). Doesn't that trouble you a little? I'm seriously not being sarcastic when I ask that; I really want to know. Doesn't the idea of snuffing out a (potential) person's life before they've ever gotten a chance to do or be anything disturb you? Don't you ever wonder what that person might have been or done had they not been aborted and prevented from growing up? I mean, it's not like they just miscarried spontaneously because something was wrong with them, their parents terminated them for whatever reason, including because they just didn't want them or they were mildly disfigured (including disfigurements which could easily be surgically corrected). Does that trouble you in any way?
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NicodemusAtrophy is right.
shareWell, I don't know the name of this user, as it's been deleted, but this person pretty much hit the nail on the head. The wife supposedly was using birth control for what, eleven years? Now, they didn't know this then, as this was in 1974, but it has, I believe, been proven that some birth control, and hormone therapy for women entering menopause can cause really bad side effects in women, and should not be taken long term. In this movie, they chose to have the side effects hit the baby instead of the mother, but the point, I believe, is being made.
Want a real messed up medication? Take a look at Risperdal (or however it's spelled). There are all kinds of lawsuits coming up right now for this because of what it is doing to boys.
We need to be A LOT more careful what we put in our bodies, medication-wise.
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The baby did not only kill in self defense. The milkman was doing nothing that would have gotten him killed, nor was the uncle. This was neither a pro or anti abortion film. It was a film about how things we used may be damaging us and it was also about how we tend to quickly judge something/someone as totally dangerous and seek its/their destruction instead of trying to figure out how to capture it and possibly understand and help it.
"Do All Things For God's Glory"-1 Corinthians 10:31
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