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Is he a hero here, Paul Kersey, are we meant to think he was in the right?


Cheers thanks.

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Considering how the system is portrayed in the movie and how both his wife and daughter are murdered and raped, then YES..

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But did those muggers and all deserve to die, was he right to administer his own form of vigilante justice?

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Yes. Completely yes.

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Yes, but if you've seen the film, he never gets those who attacked his family.

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Legally, no, he wasn't right. Vigilante justice is just plain wrong and there are excellent laws in place to prevent this kangaroo court solution.

But, this movie fulfills the fantasy of those who have witnessed (some directly) violence by perps who have escaped justice or at least have read about it and been frustrated by what seems to be an impotent justice system. Watching this man kill those who deserved to die by the violence and misery they bring to people who didn't deserve it is immensely satisfying. That's why this movie resonated so well.

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For more on this difficult subject matter, from the same director, I recommend the excellent "Lawman" (1971), starring Burt Lancaster in a fantastic proto-RoboCop zealot super law enforcer turn. The ending is one of the most incredible, ballsiest thing ever commited to film.

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"The ending is one of the most incredible, ballsiest thing ever commited to film."
Wonder what exactly it could be without spoiling it? Maybe a sub Wild Bunch-type of Sam Peckinpah-esque bloodshed stylishly filmed?

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How smug and presumptuous. You should just watch the movie. Lawman is excellent.

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My good Man18, there's absolutely no question that Michael Winner's 'Lawman' isn't playing in the same league as 'The Wild Bunch', nor that its ending is as aesthetically significant as that of Peckinpah's masterpiece, but it packs a different kind of punch altogether and very few films dare go where it goes.

Without spoiling it, I'd says that in the last few minutes of the film it suddenly shines a very different light on a character and opens up the film to a much more complex interpretation, while producing an interesting critique of what vigilantism or cold-hard-justice-that-never-blinks does to the human psyche (incidentally, it also helps get a better understanding of what the director is trying to say in 'Death Wish', 3 years later).
It's also probably the bleakest, no-compromise sequence in any western this side of Robert Aldrich's 'Ulzana's Raid' (also with Burt Lancaster) where...

(SPOILERS !)

...a man shoots a woman and her kid in the head to spare them the fate of being captured by Apaches, then shoots himself in the mouth so he won't feel the "open-heart surgery" performed on him by said Apaches.

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Just one correction: The soldier shoots the woman but not the kid. In fact, the kid survives the encounter because the Apaches are impressed with his bravery when he shoves them away from his mother and prevents them from mutilating her corpse.

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I will definitely try and watch that one, thanks.

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Excellent choice, Sir. Then let us know what you think.

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"That's why this movie resonated so well."
What does this say about our human nature?

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It says that humans hate when despicable people get away with doing things that are inhuman.

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Yes and if you sometime down the road see DEATH WISH II, you'll see vigilante justice at it's grittiest

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It’s time for you to skip Death Wish II and go directly to Death Wish 3.

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Nah. DW2 has the best nudity.

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Today they could do a remake where Paul Kersey's wife and daughter antagonize some urban youths who are on their way to register for college and an important business opportunity, forcing the youths to take action against their inherent unearned privilege. Then, when Kersey takes his misguided revenge, we would have a Jason-style horror narrative of him preying upon hard-working street gang members like a soulless human shark, assisted by the corrupt cops while righteous AntiFa members fight to take back the neighborhoods by burning them down.

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Apparently, Eli Roth's 2018 "Death Wish" with Bruce Willis IS a remake of the movie. 44 years later.

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Yes, but that one is not "Correct".

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He wasn't a hero? That's news.

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Maybe anti-hero.

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In reality he wasn’t right and vigilantism is wrong. You can protect yourself but you can’t chase down people you perceive as criminals and kill them.

But this is fiction.

We watch these movies to help deal with the frustration that the justice system is broken — or at least severely restrained by its own rules and morality — and we sometimes feel powerless. Seeing evil people put down like rabid dogs is cathartic.

And strangely entertaining.

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Vigilantism is, of course, illegal, but sometimes it's the right thing to do. The law, and the police, often do not and can not protect us or do justice to those who deserve punishment. When that happens, it is any man's or woman's moral right to take justice into his or her own hands. Under the circumstances portrayed in "Death Wish", Bronson's character was completely in the right. He was a hero. People who are criminals need to be chased down, and sometimes they deserve to die.

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Of course it isn’t. Calm down.

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He's not angry, just explanatory. And analytical. It demands longer texts and attention to detail.

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In the movie yes. In the book no.

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