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'She used to be Jewish'...


To paraphrase 'Rhota Rooterstein' from MAD Magazine, Rhoda used to be Jewish...

On the 12/16/1974 episode of 'Guess What I Got You For The Holidays', Rhoda gives $2,000 to Joe for Christmas. No mention of Hanukkah or Rhoda (or her family) being Jewish at all in this episode.

Carleton leaves Rhoda a tin of fudge outside her door for a Christmas gift.

Outside on their terrace is a big Christmas tree in the corner - not lit or decorated - but a big evergreen tree in the corner (never saw that before). The terrace is covered in snow - first time I ever saw that!

At the end of the episode, Rhoda and Brenda are wrapping Christmas gifts together.

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True that. And one notable thing about depictions of Jews on television was that they always celebrated Christmas. Even if they kept Hanukkah, they still always had Christmas too.

Yes, lots of my Jewish and half-Jewish friends do that in real-life, but the custom is sure not as ubiquitous as television depictions would have led you to believe.

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Do you think it's because the writers feel that the majority of Americans celebrate Christmas and would not be able to relate to characters celebrating Hanakkah? I mean, I'm obviously only one person, but I celebrate Christmas and it certainly wouldn't have mattered to me if Rhoda celebrated Hanakkah instead, but maybe they felt that it would cause a disconnect between a lot of people and their characters, plus, it would have forced the writers to address Rhoda and Brenda's religion, and from what I have seen over the decades, most sitcoms completely avoid the topic of religion, unless it is central to the premise of the show, such as in "Amen" with Sherman Hemsley.

Also, Joe wasn't Jewish, was he?

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No, Joe was a gentile. There's a minor amount of to-do made about this when Rhoda first tells her folks about the impending marriage.

In all probability, it was about the ubiquity of Christmas in the American conciousness at the time Rhoda aired. Although a greater awareness of ethnic and racial diversity had become part of the cultural landscape by the early Seventies, the norm in tv land was still WASP pretty much all the way. So, even though the celebration of Christmas wouldn't have been part of a lot of Jewish households in real life, on television Hannukah had to become a sort of yuletime hybrid in order for the majority viewing demographic to relate, yes.

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They could have also ignored the holiday all together, other shows did. I'm surprised they didn't. In the case of Joe's Christmas gift of $2K, they could have aired it at any time in the season and called it his Birthday gift.

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I think, now that Rhoda was the main character of a show, they felt her Jewish side had to be suppressed in order to please the mainstream audience, at the time. I'm sure more Jewish references are made in the first 4 seasons of MTM than all of Rhoda.

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I think you're right - more Jewish jokes/references were made on MTM than her own show.

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