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Shot of Barbra in the final scene


Ok, I don't know if anyone besides me will have noticed this, but here goes. I've had this movie, taped off tv, since about 1990, and I've watched it way too many times to count. So recently I got the dvd (yay!) but in the very final scene, the "Love means never having to say you're sorry" scene, there is a brief, close-up shot of Barbra missing from the dvd. It goes like this:

Judy: Let me tell you something. Love means never having to say you're sorry.(she blinks a few times)
CUT to Howard staring at her.
THEN on the dvd he says IMMEDIATELY "That's the dumbest thing I ever heard", but on my video tape it goes like this:

Judy: Let me tell you something. Love means never having to say you're sorry.(she blinks a few times)
CUT to Howard staring at her -
CUT to JUDY, completely still, with her eyes open and a very stupid and therefore extremely funny, expression on her face -
CUT back to Howard and THEN only does he say "That's the dumbest thing I ever heard."

Did anyone else ever spot this? I know it's a completely random, split second shot, but why on earth would they take it out? It can't be that there were two cuts of the movie circulating because I didn't spot any other differences.

I'm just annoyed that it's gone because I really loved the expression on her face!

K


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I've been thnking about this for eighteen months, and believe that in today's short-attention-span dvd age, the makers probably thought those few seconds would prove too long for the kids of today, and trimmed them out to make the movie more zappy (even though it was right at the end and you'd think they wouldn't be worrying about "losing" the audience at that stage).

Great spot though.




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But sings on:
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I loved the movie "What's Up, Doc?" (1972, Peter Bogdanovich) as a kid, and really enjoyed seeing it again couple of months ago (on DVD). Good, clean fun and great dialogue and wonderful talent. Nice story, great rythm. Delightful and naughty and snappy.
Good Q kathco in your OP. I wouldn't know the answer though whether a split second scene (close-up of Barbra Streisand's look) were missing. I will pay extra attention to it when I see it again. But that is not much of use as an A. So here is my thought (and in addition to BishopBrennan's Re: which I thought made sense):
Isn't the reason maybe they cut it out, that today's audience is not familiar with the famous quote from "Love Story" it is/was referring to? (It IS the "Love Story" quote I'm not mistaken YES?!). The smart response (By Doc/Ryan O'Neal) to the "Love means never having to say you're sorry" (Judy Maxwell/Barbra Streisand teasing) is then taking maybe too lang to have effect timing-wise producers might have thought?
Ryan O'Neal starred in the film "Love Story" (1970, Arthur Hiller; Writer: Erich Segal) alongside Ali MacGraw and was a huge succes. In 1970. Its famous quote (or Tagline as they call it here on IMDb) that had such an impact culturally was indeed "Love means never having to say you're sorry" and WAS heartbreaking and painful (but it's effect may have dimmed and lost impact). All of that film was heartbreaking and tragic and romantic - is that what they call melodramatic? Tearjerker? But it might be outdated now or nearly forgotten in this day for the joke (ironically toying with the Doc's leading part in the boxoffice hit it was referring to and the bombastic effect that quote still had in that day of the films making-proces, the year 1972 and on) to have an effect, in around 2003, the year of the re-release on DVD.



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Good answer! I know I have to explain it to all the people I watch the movie with (sadly).

He said it's all in your head, and I said, so's everything--
But he didnt get it.

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Good explanation but a pitiful reason, indeed.

I watched What's Up, Doc when I was a kid in the 70's. I never saw Love Story until I was in my late teens via VHS rental. So, I didn't get the joke until then either but it is no reason to cut up a scene. What a joke if this is what they call "updating" a movie!


I wish the DVD producers wouldn't short-change the audience.

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So here is my thought (and in addition to BishopBrennan's Re: which I thought made sense):
Isn't the reason maybe they cut it out, that today's audience is not familiar with the famous quote from "Love Story" it is/was referring to?
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by - DaVooz on Wed May 14 2008 03:43:34
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It's amusing that you think this much consideration goes into a DVD transfer.

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Check out the scene-specific commentary by Streisand. The scene is intact there but Babs (on the commentary track) starts talking so you don't get a clean movie soundtrack. Regardless, all of the footage is there.

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My dvd has that shot of barbra in it. Maybe it was just you're version?

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Thank you for that! I was wonderong just what the OP was talking about, and now I know. That is a goofy-looking face she does!

Love Barbra and 'What's Up Doc?" It's one of Bogdonovich's best.

"What do you want me to do, draw a picture? Spell it out!"

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swh1939 is correct! On the DVD, that quick shot of Barbra is MISSING from the actual movie, MISSING on the director's commentary version, but INTACT on Barbra's scene-specific commentary. Weird but true!

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This is my favorite movie and I noticed it right away after re watching it..... I had it taped off tv for a couple decades before the dvd came out and I was enraged to find the hysterical close up of barbra edited out of my version too.

I think the reason its not there is Barbra Streisand herself had it removed for th DVD release. She was never into this film and only gives scene specific commentary and it is well known and documented that she has directors shoot her scenes on her good side (Her left) watch thsi film again and you will see almost all her scenes are filmed with her facing the camera on her left.

She is SO much a "Diva" that I beleive she had something to do with this. I could be wrong but the other reasons people gave on here were just rediculous. NO ONE who transfers films to DVD have any insight into the script or gags in the script to warrant an editing of anything. BEsides the Line about Love Story is intact.....its Barbras expression that is removed. It is literally one second long but that one second gets a great laugh.

Its on all the releases before the dvd.

Someone else here said they have the scene on their DVD so I am going to buy another one and see if its there.

The blue Ray is coming out soon too and I will buy it just to see this scene is intact or not.

Peter Bogdonovich would be outraged if he knew the scene was missing. We should let him know.

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