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Two questions.... that hopefully haven't been asked here 100 times


But probably have.

Just re-watched this for the first time in years. It's great, of course, but two things distracted me.

1. The film Berton shot over the surface of Solaris doesn't reveal any of the manifestations he saw. This suggests they're a psychological thing but obviously we later learn they're a physical reality. If so, why didn't the things Berton see appear on film? It can't be that they need to be experienced first hand because Kelvin sees Gibarian's visitor in the filmed message left for him.

2. By modern standards there are a lot of anomalies in terms of the customs and realities of being in space. I wonder if there's meaning behind the decisions to, say, dress the crew in their own casual clothes, leather jackets and boots. Occasionally they wear flight suits or whatever but mostly just what you'd wear when out and about or at home. I can't think why anyone would ever need a leather jacket on a space station. There are candles in use in the oak paneled library of the (scientific research) space station, and characters smoke prodigiously (ok things were different in the 70's, but I'd be very surprised if any astronaut or cosmonaut has ever smoked in space). I wonder if Tarkovsky included incongruous details like this (1) without realising they were incongruous (something I instinctively think unlikely), (2) to use their contradictory presence to make a thematic point or (3) on some sort of nonspecific creative whim... or something else entirely...?

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I'm by no means an expert on this film, but this is what I thought when watching the movie the other day:

1- The camera was pointing towards the wrong direction, and could only capture a small area vs the pilot's full view. It was a 4 meter tall child on the surface of the planet, not too easy to catch on camera. Additionally, it was cloudy and video seemed to have lasted for a very short time.

I agree it was distracting and kind of a turn off (would have been more intriguing if there was something that could not be explained there, but I guess it was supposed to be like that, given most people were in favor of shutting down the Solaris program).

2- I took the casual clothes as a post-modern space travel. Being in the far future where space travel seems common, it'd make sense that the spacecrafts are so safe that you are not even required to wear a space suit any more.

It makes no sense to have candles or smoke cigarettes in space to me. I guess the only explanation would be if somehow they were able to produce unlimited breathable air for free.

It could be explained by the crew's insanity (not caring about wasting supplies), but it wouldn't explain what candles and cigarettes were doing there in the first place.

Anyway, all explanations are far fetched, but I don't think there is any perfect explanation for them.

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1. i think the planet only allows you to see what it wants you to see, with Berton's film it didn't want to let those people see what he had filmed so it somehow altered what was captured on camera (it's an intelligent being after all), but with Gibarian's visitor the planet wanted Kelvin to see her for whatever reason

that's how i saw it anyway





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