After Krug raped Mari and as she was getting up and walking away, what was up with the way Krug and the others looked at each other? It almost seemed like they were sad or something. Why did they have to kill her if she was going to kill herself anyway?
shareAfter Krug raped Mari and as she was getting up and walking away, what was up with the way Krug and the others looked at each other? It almost seemed like they were sad or something.
So much for the "remorse" since he killed her just as she was about to off herself anyway.
shareits a powerful seen, craven wanted to show that the killers finally felt disgusted with what they were doing and they came to terms with it. they looked at eachover with remourse and disgust, but they knew they had to kill mari in the end overwise she would tell someone
shareYeah,that makes sense. Thanks for the input!
shareI didn't think she was going to killer herself. I just assumed they told her to go into the water and she just gave in and did whatever they asked.
shareShe had given up. Plus that scene always made me think of old school baptisms where they would do the ceremony in a lake. It's like Mari knew she was giving her soul up. It looked symbolic and not so literal.
shareI saw this movie in 1974 I think, and I haven't seen it since so I may be wrong, but if memory serves, after Mari is raped, she sits up, sticks her finger down her throat and starts to vomit.
I always assumed that the disgusted reactions of Krug et al, were supposed to be ironic. ie they can disembowel a teenage girl without batting an eye but get grossed out by puke.
she didn't put the finger in her mouth to make herself throw up, she just threw up after the rape.
the scene where she slowly gets up, zipped up her pants, looked back at the gang and then just walked away (with that godawful sad music in the background) makes me wanna cry every time !!!
Mari's face when Krug rapes her ... makes me want to puke.
and the kinda remorseful, sad faces of the gang ... wow!
Mari looked so cute, so innocent, even when she walks into the water ... god, that scene makes me wanna kill myself *sniff* the whole movie wasn't so bad (as, for instance, I spit on your grave), but THAT particular scene makes want to never see that movie again ... EVER !!
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Personally, I believe that she went into the water because after being raped she felt violated and disgusting so she attempted to 'wash away' or 'clean' her violated body. I heard that often rapists make their victims take a shower afterwards, so perhaps it was Krug that made her go into the water.
shareI watched it for the first time... And at that scene, I just started crying. It was just so awful, normally when I watch movies like that I snigger and point out their flawed logic. But that scene, everything about it was so sad and hopeless, all the looks, and Mari praying and walking to the lake. I had to stop watching, and I hardly ever do that.
I'll finish it at some point but it's a very quietly emotional film. I just didn't want those girls to die... I don't know what it was, but I need something to take my mind off it.
So, Franca284, I agree with you totally. I don't think I could watch that again.
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I think they looked like that because she was a virgin.
It looked like, during the rape scene, that she was in a tremendous amount of pain. She could obviously be in pain because she's being raped, but I think she was in physical pain because he was taking her virginity away, which is why the group looked so remorseful. She was only 17, as stated in the movie, and by her excitment that her breasts developed over the winter, the innocence of that statement implies that she was never sexually active. I think she decided to go into the water, basically killing herself, because her virginity was taken through rape. Just an idea.
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I think you're on the right track with the virginity explanation, except I never saw Mari going into the lake as a suicide attempt. To me it felt like her soul had been so violated that she went into a trance and didn't really care where she went after that, even if it meant walking straight into a lake of filthy water. Perhaps she knew that she was going to die. It's such a sad, powerful moment, and in my opinion it's the strongest scene in Wes Craven's entire career.
shareOh, hey, thanks for the sarcastic reply! Now can you explain why they were suddenly wracked with remorse after they raped Phyllis the night before with no remorse, killed her moments before with no remorse, and had no reason to kill Mari but then did? Kay thanks!
sharethe only thing i dont understand is why they dont feel any remorse for the other girl after the rape and when the killed her, but Mari's reaction made them feel so "remorseful".... why was that??
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means".
Maybe because the other girl fought them more, especially with the chase then spitting in his face after getting stabbed. They could justify it by saying 'the b*tch deserved it.' Mari on the other hand was more submissive and pathetic to them. She definitely knew what was coming for her when she saw her friend's severed hand, so she just gave up completely.
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Wasn't there a scene like this in lord of the flies as well?
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Um. Either that or it was a pitying look, almost like "poor stupid thing, we're gonna kill it anyway."
I doubt Craven is smart enough to write a scene that humanizes these types of folks. By all psychological accounts, it wouldn't make sense.
That wasn't remorse at all, those guys don't have remorses, that's quite obvious seeing what happens afterwards. I think it was more like how they felt after sex... once the craze is gone; tiredness and apathy. Figure it out for yourself.
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It was a surprisingly powerful scene, I wondered why they looked like that aswell. I didn't think it was remorse because later in Mari's home they joked about her death.
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You seem to be the only one here who gets it! Cant understand why people thinks its remorse.
sharelol, wow. So much dramatic thought put into a *beep* horror flick. Can't wait to see it.
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Mind you, I haven't seen this movie for years - and I watched a good portion of it originally with my eyes closed - but I always felt they were disappointed. The girl walking into the water was - well - anticlimactic after the rape. Maybe they expected her to fight more so they could enjoy killing her. She didn't so killing her was an almost dull moment and they were let down about that.
No, those monsters did not feel “remorse“. Well, maybe the son but none of the others.
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a flash of humanity smotherd in the first (and only) use of the gun? Why use the gun and not go into the water and use the knifes they so enjoyed useing?
I saw people confrunted with who they where, cleaning their blood soaked hands and wondering how they had got where they where. The only way out was to ignore the emotions and kill her in the most impersonal way possible - with a bullit in the back.
I'd agree that it's an emotionaly draining scene.
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It was a powerful and chilling scene. Krug and the gang had just realised what they had done, and felt disgusted. The let Mari get up, put on her pants, she started walking off, they gave her some distance and I think felt genuine sorrow that they had to kill her, then started to follow her. I assume she walked into the water to "clean" herself and it was obvious that she had just given up, she knew Krug was going to kill her, Krug knew he was going to kill her, We knew Krug was going to kill her. She had just accepted that there was no way out of it and there was no way to escape. She just accepted she was going to die, and it was a very powerful scene. But then when she walks into the water, and they load the bullets into the gun, the movie goes dead silent.. We know whats going to happen, and Mari is shot in the head. It was so moving and chilling at the same time.
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