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What's the deal with Ali McGraw


Can some one tell me what is up with Ali McGraw?

Maybe it's because I'm from a younger generation, but what is the appeal (aside from maybe her ability to look pretty)? This woman couldn't act her way out of a paper bag. Her range of emotions: stone-face-pouty, stone-face happy, stone-face sad... Her delivery : monotone, lacking in inflection or emotion. What gives? She makes Andie MacDowell look like Meryl Streep!

Her performance nearly ruined this Sam Peckinpah classic for me!

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Ali McGraw was so hot in that movie, possible one of the hottest anyone has ever been in a movie. Who cares if she can't act, anyway I personally think she was very effective the way she was.
The result was a classic Peckinpaw film, and Steve McQueen in his most bad*ss role. I love it when he shoots up the cop car. Some parts feel dated, but the overall result is timeless.

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"possible one the hottest anyone has ever been in a movie" (sic to that whole fragment). Are you out of your mind? Do you J. Arthur to the Bad News Bears? she looks like a little boy.

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You say there are other reasons, please tell me because the points you gave, hold no water to me.

Okay Ali MacGraw is not the worlds best actress, not even great, but she in no way takes away from the movie. I even believe that were it another actress it would take away from it. (I mean look at her, damn, she is so hot, if you are gay tell me, because that is cool with me, I don't care.)

'Al Lettieri is a great heavy and I wanted to see his final demise at the hands of McQueen more draw out.' ??? If you are saying what I think you are saying, my reply would be that I thought his scenes were long and drawn out as it was, but were not very essential to the two main characters, and thus not needing to be killed in a long drawn out way. Maybe it even is saying something about Mcqueen's character, he spared him, he was his enemy, but felt a kin to him in a way, and only killed him when forced to.

And are you that desperate for pointless violence, it worked in 'The Wild Bunch,' but this is a different movie. More pointless bloodshed, would be... uh... pointless. You sound like a twelve year old wanting to be cool and watch a movie that is rated R. Unless you really are twelve, in which case that is okay.

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Alright I'm going to let this go, but I think you are wrong about the violence thing. If anyone knows violence it is Peckinpaw, he pioneered it, what Tarantino knows of violence, he got from him.

Look at Straw Dogs in particular and his others, it is not just The Wild Bunch. It is clear to me that Sam would be the last person to change his movie to get box office ratings or to please a production company.

"Tarantino" not "Terantino"

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"Peckinpah" not "Peckinpaw".

Just for the record. :)

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I don't think Ali McGraw ruined the movie at all. Like other users have pointed out, she is really hot! OK, I know beauty is not the most important part of acting, but I don't think her role in the film called for any serious acting anyway. She was supposed to be a tough lady, maybe that is why her performance is so restrained. I haven't really seen her in any other film (I have seen Love Story but I was too young), but in this particular film, she is beauty and coolness personified.
And as far as I am concerned she and Steve McQueen looked so amazing together onscreen and that's one of the things I loved about this film.

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Right on

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(small spoiler)

I could appreciate her introvert acting. I think it's kinda part of her role. She keeps asking herself if it's all worth it. Throughout the movie, she gives up everything. She slept with a crook to get her man free, she murdered and did it all out of a love she isn't sure about. It is only untill the end that she melts a bit. (After the old guy pointed out that everything he owes was thanks to his wife...)

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I do not agree with you. With all due respect to Ms. McGraw, I did not see Ali McGraw perform in 'The Getaway', not even phoned in! She was a pretty face on the screen to compliment Steve McQueen. However, she is beautiful reminder 'Beauty, does not an actress make'.
I think Jane Fonda would have been the perfect 'Carol McCoy' to balance and compliment Steve McQueen's 'Doc'. I feel her feminist convictions would have been in the way of finishing the script. So, whom from 1970-1 would have been available and would have been a better playing a non blonde 'Carol McCoy'; Gena Rowlands, Leslie Ann Warren, Shirley MacClain, Barbara Hershey, Ann Margret, Susan Sarandon, Marsha Mason, Sally Kellerman, Goldie Hawn, Susan Clark, Candice Bergan, Leigh Taylor Young, Karen Black, Stella Stevens, Trish Van Devere, Jessica Walter, Angie Dickenson, Pam Grier, Faye Dunaway, Paula Prentiss, Dyan Cannon, Lauren Hutton, Katherine Ross, Samantha Eggar, Julie Christie,...for starters?
As you can see the actress hopper was not empty.

I think that when your spouse is Robert Evans and one of the HOTTEST Producers in Hollywood, getting a gig can't be that difficult, especially when Steve McQueen had the hots for her. I have to wonder how hard did Steve McQueen push to have her in the movie?
Sam seemed to be turned on by buxom blondes and full figured brunettes...not a boyish ballerina's figure of a woman.
Check out most of the body types of the women in his films.

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From the trivia section:

Paramount Production head Robert Evans was developing several high profile projects for her when she filed for divorce. The roles she walked away from to marry lover Steve McQueen were Daisy in Great Gatsby, The (1974) and Evelyn in Chinatown (1974).


I had always thought they were already a couple when this film was made. Obviously, they became one during the filming.


Later, she left him, then he got cancer. I remember that all so vividly. As a last resort he went to mexico to try some radical treatment. Didn't work. :(

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I liked Ali McGraw in this movie, and yes, she is superhot :)



While I really liked the ending, the final "showdown" was slightly dissapointing to me.



Oh, and the real pay-off for me in this movie was seeing Steve McQueen punch Sally Struthers while she was freaking out in the hallway :)

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LOL the posts here are great. True, Ali couldn't act, but I think it's also true that she was probably just right for the role. I don't think a different actress could have supported his macho status.

I just watched this movie last night and I have to say the more I watch Steve McQueen the more enamored I am of him.

Oh, and I too was glad to see Steve punch Sally Struthers. LOL

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Watch Love Story. Thats why she made it.

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She got the role for 2 reasons:
1- She was in "Love Story", a big hit in the 70's.
2- She was married to the top producer, Robert Evans,
in H'Wood at that time.

The Director, Sam Peckinpah, has stated that she was miscast
for this role, but her high-profile extra-marital affair w/
Steve Mcqueen, was great pre-publicity fodder for the press.
Afterwards, she divorced Evans, which severely limited her
career from then on. At the time, many fans turned on her
because she had a child, a husband, yet flaunted her affair
w/ Steve McQueen. Evans reportedly uttered the famous line-
about "never working in this town again", in reference to her career.
Gradually, her volatile marriage to McQueen, born of infidelity, died
due to stresses and strains brought on by these issues.
Even after McQueen's death, Mcgraw stayed out of the limelight, w/
bit parts in TV, etc. Reportedly, she admitted life w/ the troubled actor was the most difficult period of her life. Currently she's hawking yoga videos.
In effect, she threw away her career, for Steve McQueen.
Both Evans, McQueen, & McGraw herself, have remained VERY
tight-lipped about this over the years.
Was it worth it? To quote Love Story, "love means never having
to say you're sorry!"

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swayback pretty much broke it down. Also, because she was america's sweetheart at the time, she couldn't die. In the scene where they escape out the fire escape, if this were to follow the Peckinpah formula, she should be killed, but instead the professional killer just shoots off into nowhere and then gets shot by McQueen. This is another way in which the movie was affected by her being cast.

Also, I don't think she's attractive, in the beginning when you see her back she's so skinny, she looks like my skinny ass rabbit. pretty revolting.

For audiences at the time, it would be financially smart, but for future audiences it becomes all the more clear that she was miscast. She pretty much got cast because of her highly publicized affair with McQueen.

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>Maybe it's because I'm from a younger generation, but what is the appeal (aside from maybe her ability to look pretty)? This woman couldn't act her way out of a paper bag. Her range of emotions: stone-face-pouty, stone-face happy, stone-face sad... Her delivery : monotone, lacking in inflection or emotion.<

The appeal of Ms McGraw is simply that, she has an exceptional ability to 'look pretty'.

I once went out with a girl (a couple of months ago, actually) who looked the spit of Ali McGraw. I expected her to be the bees knees: she was absolutely stunning, and although I think that in The Getaway, Carol's (McGraw's) introversion makes her enigmatic and therefore even more 'hot', the girl I went out with was also exceptionally quiet. And she was just plain dull. Talk about disappointment. She was a nice girl, but you couldn't hold a conversation with her beyond inane chat about soap operas and chick lit.(When a girl goes 'Bridget Jones'on my behind, I cut my losses and pack up my bags.)

Just goes to show that what we find attractive in movies is not always what we seek in a partner in real life. In movies, I like brunettes who do the 'stone-face-pouty, stone-face happy, stone-face sad' bag, but in life I like women with a bit more zest. However, in life (as in movies) I still prefer brunettes, so there is some crossover.

I'm sure that women would say the same thing about the strong, silent types that they find attractive in films: they may be interesting to spend two hours with on the silver screen, but in real life they might be dull as ditchwater.

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Warren Oates.

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Well, one good thing, at least McQueen and McGraw don't overact in this one. Very toned down performances from both of them probably cause it fit their characters. Though McGraw can hardly be called a great actor, her finest moment albeit short-lived was in Love Story.

I heard that Evans regretted losing McGraw and blamed himself for it as he was spending all his time working on the Godfather. Then again, what can you expect. McQueen was the hottest actor in Hollywood.

The remake was actually not too bad at all. Basinger and Baldwin have good chemistry and Madsen is always fun to watch.

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I don't care for MacGraw that much, but I thought she filled the role okay. McQueen plays a good tough-guy, but I never really understood his appeal at all. When I looked at him, he's like white bread, in that, I never knew what the big deal was.

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I didn't find her all that attractive, she had this bitchy look on her face through the whole movie, like she was stuck up. Got kind of annoyed with her after a while, did she even smile once?

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On the dumb where she putting things straight with McCoy, in the flophouse room on the bed while McCoy is fiddling around with their swag, at the train station earlier when McQueen came back with the money, but anyway that film was not made for a female actress to show her ultra-white smiling face but to deliver tension and a particular mood. McQueen's and her performance made that film a classic, period.

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