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Love the Movie, But


I hate the music. There's nothing memorable or remotely hummable. Contrast the music from 1776 to Richard Rodgers (Oklahoma, Carousel, Sound of Music, so many more), Cole Porter (Kiss Me Kate, again many more), Leonard Bernstein (On the Town, West Side Story), Andrew Lloyd Weber (Cats, Phantom of the Opera), even Meredith Willson (The Music Man). I also include Fiddler on the Roof, although I don't know who composed the music for that. I love all of those, and I can sing along with almost everything. I do NOT like any of this music (although some of the singers have great voices--loved Blythe Danner's!).

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That was my first reaction to it as well, upon my first viewing in 2002. But it has since grown on me; I was quite delighted with it when it aired again this 4th, and snatches of its songs are still stuck in my head.

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Considering the fact that my 9-year-old sings some of these songs for days after we watch it (especially "He Plays the Violin"), I would have to disagree with you. I'll admit some of the songs are not ones that you find yourself singing while doing chores, like some of the other musicals you've mentioned, but I would not agree that that means they are not "memorable". I get chills every time I hear "Momma Look Sharp" and "Molasses to Rum".

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"Molasses to Rum" is a great number, even though the subject matter is unusual, to say the least. I have trouble getting it out of my head.



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I saw the play once in 1975 and remembered "Molasses to Rum", "Chirp, Chirp, Chirp", and the songs between Abigail and John through all those years (I only saw the film for the first time about four years ago.) I also love "Sit Down John", "He Plays the Violin", "The Lees of Old Virginia", and especially "But Mr Adams". I find "Momma Look Sharp" a little too maudlin for my taste although it did give me chills the first time I saw the film.

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I'm a big fan of oldies musicals, and I respectfully disagree. I find some of the music from 1776 not only delightful but fun to sing around the house. The tunes aren't hard, the lyrics have memorable rhymes, the songs are clever and have attitude. I habitually go around singing "piddle, twiddle and resolve", "the lees of old virginia", "he plays the violin", "cool conservative men", "sit down, john" -- oh, heck, most all of it!

However, I confess, I generally stopped singing along with musicals after Man of La Mancha. Phantom of the Opera? What part of Phantom of the Opera do you find catchy and hummable? I really want to know, 'cause I missed it. And Cats? To my ears, that was essentially a one-song score (Memory).

I'm curious, do you also sing along with Sweeney Todd? If yes, then our musical camaraderie would clearly seem to end after The Golden Era. Guess it's just one of those crazy "I say PO-TAY-TO, you say PO-TAH-TO" things, eh?

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I'm with melonkali on this. I love and sing along with a lot of the old musicals, especially ones names by the OP, but generally only find one or two memorable and "singable" ones from each of Andrew Lloyd Webber's musicals -- with the exception of Jesus Christ Superstar and Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat (two of my all-time favorites where I love almost every number in those musicals). I do however like and hum "Music of the Night" (the only memorable one to me from Phantom of the Opera) and "Mr. Mistoffelees" (in addition to "Memory" from Cats).

OTOH, I have adored and sung along with almost all of the songs in 1776 ever since I first saw it on the big screen as a teenager. We watch the DVD every year around this time and the music has never gotten old even after all these years. The songs stick with me long after we watch it.

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From Phantom I like Music of the Night, All I Ask of You, Think of Me, Masquerade, the title song, and a few more. I've never seen or heard Sweeney Todd. All I like from Cats is Memory, but I love that. I've never seen Rent, and I hated the music from Wicked. What I've heard from Three Penny Opera I don't care for except Mack the Knife! Some of Spamalot was fun--"Not Dead Yet!" What I liked about Rum to Molasses was John Cullum's voice; I first saw him in Northern Exposure before I knew him as a musical star, and the scene at Christmas when he sang Ave Maria in the candlelit church was gorgeous.

Boo Hoo! Let me wipe away the tears with my PLASTIC hand!--Lindsey McDonald (Angel)

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But M? jabell, dear M? jabell,
You say you love the film, 'cept musicality.
But that is the base of its spir'tuality,
Without which this flick carries no reality!

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I saw 1776 on Broadway in 1970 - by the time I saw it I was familiar with the score, as I owned and listened to the Original Broadway Cast Album frequently. I haven't listened to that album in decades (it's one I've never replaced with a CD) and for some reason didn't catch up with the movie until two nights ago, when I finally got around to watching the DVD I'd purchased several months ago.

ALL of that music deemed unmemorable or 'remotely hummable' came right back to me as I watched and listened.

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I'm a big fan of musicals but some do drag and get more annoying as they go on to the point you dread the next song. I watched this yesterday in its entirety ,at first shaking my head wondering how people sat through the play when it was out??

But I am a true fan of music, theater, acting, classic tv shows, ensemble show ect. With all that in me something clicked while watching this. I loved the passion of the characters when they were talking about independence and the King of England. I thought the songs were amazing. I thought the ending was amazing. I've loved Ken Howard since 'The White Shadow'. I got a kick out of the fact that at one time he was Ann Landers son-in-law. I read her column everyday and she adored him. William Daniels, Howard Da Silva, the ladies - all great. I got teary during the song about 'Momma'. I am now a fan and will buy this.

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I think "But Mr. Adams" is very "humm-able", and also has some great comedy and insight into John Adams' personality.

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I don't hate the songs but nothing sticks. At least after a first viewing.

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Not even the egg song?

We're waiting for the chirp, chirp, chirp
Of an eaglet being born
We're waiting for the chirp, chirp, chirp
On this humid Monday morning in this
Congressional incubator

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